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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 13 2012, 17:15:49     : Àäåêâàòíûé îòâåò

Ïðåêðàñíûé îòâåò! Ëó÷øå è íå ñêàæåøü!
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Â.ÏÓÒÈÍ: Ëþäìèëà Âàëåíòèíîâíà, ñïàñèáî çà òî, ÷òî Âû ïîäíÿëè ýòó òåìó. ß ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî îíà î÷åíü ÷óâñòâèòåëüíàÿ äëÿ íàøèõ ëþäåé, è ïîëíîñòüþ ñ Âàìè ñîãëàñåí â òîì, ÷òî íåïîíÿòíî, çà÷åì íàøè ïàðòí¸ðû è, ñêàæåì, âàøè ïàðòí¸ðû, çàêîíîäàòåëè â Øòàòàõ, ýòî äåëàþò. Ñîòðóäíèöà ÌÈÄà, êîãäà âûñòóïàëà, êîììåíòèðîâàëà (çàáûë å¸ ôàìèëèþ), ñêàçàëà, ÷òî ýòî òåàòð àáñóðäà, – àáñîëþòíî òî÷íî, ëó÷øå íå ñêàæåøü, òàê è åñòü. Íåïîíÿòíî çà÷åì, íó çà÷åì èì ýòî íàäî? Ãîâîðÿò î ïåðåçàãðóçêå, à ñàìè óñóãóáëÿþò ñèòóàöèþ, àáñîëþòíî íå ñïðîâîöèðîâàííóþ ñ íàøåé ñòîðîíû.

Âîò ïîãèá ÷åëîâåê, óæå ñòàâøèé èçâåñòíûì, ãîñïîäèí Ìàãíèòñêèé â òþðüìå óìåð. Òðàãåäèÿ, êîíå÷íî, ìû ñîæàëååì îá ýòîì. À ÷òî, ó íèõ â òþðüìàõ íèêòî íå óìèðàåò, ÷òî ëè? Ìîæåò áûòü, äàæå áîëüøå, ÷åì â íàøèõ. À â åâðîïåéñêèõ òþðüìàõ? Âåäü åñëè ïîñìîòðåòü îò÷¸òû òåõ æå ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ îðãàíèçàöèé ïî ïðàâàì ÷åëîâåêà, êîòîðûå ìîíèòîðÿò ñèòóàöèþ â ðàçëè÷íûõ ïåíèòåíöèàðíûõ ó÷ðåæäåíèÿõ Åâðîïû, òàì î÷åíü ìíîãî ïðåòåíçèé ê íèì, î÷åíü ìíîãî ïðåòåíçèé.

À â ñàìèõ Øòàòàõ? Ñëóøàéòå, óæå 8 ëåò Ãóàíòàíàìî íå çàêðûâàåòñÿ, áåç ñóäà è ñëåäñòâèÿ ëþäåé òàì ñîäåðæàò, êàê â Ñðåäíåâåêîâüå, â êàíäàëàõ õîäÿò, â öåïÿõ. Ëþäè, êîòîðûå îòêðûâàþò ñåêðåòíûå òþðüìû, ëåãàëèçîâàëè ïûòêè ïðè îñóùåñòâëåíèè ðàññëåäîâàíèÿ, è âîò ýòè ëþäè ñåé÷àñ óêàçûâàþò íàì íà êàêèå-òî íàøè íåäîñòàòêè. Îíè, íàâåðíîå, åñòü, è ìû ñàìè äîëæíû íà íèõ ðåàãèðîâàòü, ìû ýòî è äåëàåì, åù¸ ñëåäñòâèå íå çàêîí÷èëîñü, åù¸ íåïîíÿòíî, êòî òàì âèíîâàò, êòî ïðàâ, êàêàÿ òàì ñèòóàöèÿ. Ýòî ÷èñòî ïîëèòè÷åñêèé íåäðóæåñòâåííûé àêò.

×òî êàñàåòñÿ ãèáåëè íàøèõ äåòåé, êîòîðûõ óñûíîâèëè àìåðèêàíñêèå ñåìüè, – ýòî òîæå òðàãåäèÿ. Ìîæíî òîëüêî ñîæàëåòü îá ýòîì, è äåòÿì ïîñî÷óâñòâîâàòü, è ýòî òîæå âûçûâàåò îïðåäåë¸ííûå ýìîöèè. Íî íàñ âîçìóùàþò íå ñòîëüêî ýòè òðàãåäèè, õîòÿ ýòî ñàìîå ñòðàøíîå, ÷òî ìîæåò ñëó÷èòüñÿ, ñêîëüêî ðåàêöèÿ âëàñòåé íà íèõ, îïðàâäàòåëüíàÿ ðåàêöèÿ – âîò ÷òî ïëîõî. Âåäü ñóäåáíûå âëàñòè øòàòîâ ôàêòè÷åñêè íå ðåàãèðóþò íà ýòî, îïðàâäûâàþò ýòè ïðåñòóïëåíèÿ, îñâîáîæäàþò ëþäåé îò îòâåòñòâåííîñòè. Âîò ÷òî äîëæíî íàñ çàäåâàòü ïðåæäå âñåãî, õîòÿ, êîíå÷íî, è ãèáåëü ñàìà ïî ñåáå óæàñíîå ñîáûòèå, òåì áîëåå ãèáåëü ðåá¸íêà.

Ïîýòîìó ìíå ïðåäñòàâëÿåòñÿ, ÷òî äåïóòàòû Ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé Äóìû, ÿ ñåé÷àñ âèæó, ÷òî è ðåãèîíàëüíûå çàêîíîäàòåëè ïðàâèëüíî ñäåëàëè, ÷òî îáðàòèëè âíèìàíèå íà ýòî ñîáûòèå. Ýòî ñîâåðøåííî íå íàø âûáîð, ïîâòîðÿþ åù¸ ðàç, ìû íèêàê íå ïðîâîöèðîâàëè ýòó ñèòóàöèþ. ß, îòêðîâåííî ãîâîðÿ, äàæå íå ïîíèìàþ, ýòî êàêàÿ-òî, ñêîðåå âñåãî, äàæå èõ âíóòðèïîëèòè÷åñêàÿ èãðà. Íî ïî÷åìó â öåëÿõ äîñòèæåíèÿ êàêèõ-òî âíóòðèïîëèòè÷åñêèõ äèâèäåíäîâ íóæíî ïðèíîñèòü â æåðòâó ðîññèéñêî-àìåðèêàíñêèå îòíîøåíèÿ, ÿ íå ïîíèìàþ.

Ìû, êîíå÷íî, äîëæíû ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèì îáðàçîì ðåàãèðîâàòü, è Ìèíèñòåðñòâî èíîñòðàííûõ äåë ñðàçó ñêàçàëî îá ýòîì, ÷òî îòâåò áóäåò, íî òî, ÷òî Ãîñäóìà âçÿëà íà ñåáÿ ýòó èíèöèàòèâó, ìíå ïðåäñòàâëÿåòñÿ àáñîëþòíî ïðàâèëüíûì. Íî íàäî ïîñìîòðåòü, êîíå÷íî, ÷òîáû ïðèíèìàåìûå íàìè ðåøåíèÿ áûëè àäåêâàòíûìè è êàêèìè-òî íåçàïðåäåëüíûìè.
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Princess Margaret



: 25.04.2008
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Âîò ïîãèá ÷åëîâåê, óæå ñòàâøèé èçâåñòíûì, ãîñïîäèí Ìàãíèòñêèé â òþðüìå óìåð. Òðàãåäèÿ, êîíå÷íî, ìû ñîæàëååì îá ýòîì.

Íå ñîæàëååò îí íè î ÷åì. Ïîäîíîê è òâàðü.
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Âñå, ÿ áîãàòà. Ïîêà, íåóäà÷íèêè, ÿ âàñ âñåãäà íåíàâèäåëà! Smile

î âèíàõ ïðîñòî è ñî âêóñîì
Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

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Î÷åíü ïðàâèëüíûé è äîñòîéíûé îòâåò. Ïðåêðàñíàÿ àðãóìåíòàöèÿ! ׸òêî è ïî ïóíêòàì. Âñå ïóíêòû ëîãè÷íî îáîñíîâàíû, ñâÿçàíû ìåæäó ñîáîé è ñêëàäûâàþòñÿ â åäèíóþ ñòðîéíóþ êàðòèíó.

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ÂÎÏÐÎÑ: Êñåíèÿ Ñîêîëîâà, æóðíàë «Ñíîá».

 îòâåò íà ïðèíÿòèå àìåðèêàíöàìè «çàêîíà Ìàãíèòñêîãî» Ãîñäóìà ïðèíÿëà çàïðåòèòåëüíûå ìåðû â îòíîøåíèè àìåðèêàíñêèõ ãðàæäàí, êîòîðûå õîòÿò óñûíîâëÿòü ðîññèéñêèõ äåòåé-ñèðîò. Ñ÷èòàåòå ëè Âû òàêîé îòâåò äåéñòâèòåëüíî àäåêâàòíûì? È íå ñìóùàåò ëè Âàñ, ÷òî äåòè, ïðè÷¸ì ñàìûå îáåçäîëåííûå è áåñïîìîùíûå èç íèõ, ñòàíîâÿòñÿ èíñòðóìåíòîì â ïîëèòè÷åñêîé áîðüáå? Ñïàñèáî.

Â.ÏÓÒÈÍ: Âî-ïåðâûõ, Âû ñåé÷àñ ñêàçàëè î òîì, ÷òî ýòî îòâåò íà òàê íàçûâàåìûé çàêîí Ìàãíèòñêîãî. ß äâà ñëîâà ñêàæó, êàê ê ýòîìó îòíîøóñü. ß óæå ãîâîðèë, íî âñ¸-òàêè ïîçâîëþ ñåáå ñôîðìóëèðîâàòü â îáùèõ ÷åðòàõ ñâî¸ îòíîøåíèå ê ýòîìó äåëó.

Ýòî, áåçóñëîâíî, íåäðóæåñòâåííûé â îòíîøåíèè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè àêò. È äåëî íå â ÷èíîâíèêàõ, êîòîðûì çàïðåùàþò èìåòü êàêèå-òî ñ÷åòà èëè ñòàâèòü ïîä êîíòðîëü íåäâèæèìîñòü. ß íåäàâíî â Ïîñëàíèè ñàì îá ýòîì ñêàçàë. Ìû ñàìè ñ÷èòàåì, ÷òî íàøè ÷èíîâíèêè, îñîáåííî âûñîêîãî ðàíãà, ëþäè, çàíèìàþùèåñÿ ïîëèòèêîé, äîëæíû èìåòü ñ÷åòà â ðîññèéñêèõ áàíêàõ. Ó íàñ, êñòàòè ãîâîðÿ, â Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè ìíîãî áàíêîâ ñî ñòîïðîöåíòíûì èíîñòðàííûì êàïèòàëîì. È èõ äååñïîñîáíîñòü, íà䏿íîñòü íå âûçûâàåò ñîìíåíèé. Åñëè ýòîò áàíê ðàáîòàåò â Ðîññèè ëèáî â Âåíå, ëèáî ãäå-òî â äðóãîé ñòîëèöå, ýòî óæå íå èìååò çíà÷åíèÿ, âàæíî, ÷òî ýòî ìåæäóíàðîäíûé ôèíàíñîâûé èíñòèòóò. Ïîæàëóéñòà, çäåñü äåðæèòå.

×òî êàñàåòñÿ íåäâèæèìîñòè, ÿ òîæå ñêàçàë îá ýòîì. Åñëè íàì íàøè êîëëåãè çà ãðàíèöåé ïîìîãóò âûÿâèòü òåõ, êòî íàðóøàåò, ìû áóäåì èì áëàãîäàðíû è äàæå ãîòîâû ïðåìèþ çà ýòî âûïèñàòü. Íî äåëî âåäü ñîâåðøåííî íå â ÷èíîâíèêàõ. Äåëî â òîì, ÷òî îíè îäèí àíòèñîâåòñêèé, àíòèðîññèéñêèé çàêîí çàìåíèëè äðóãèì. Íå ìîãóò áåç ýòîãî íèêàê îáîéòèñü. Âñ¸ ïûòàþòñÿ îñòàòüñÿ â ïðîøëîì. Ýòî î÷åíü ïëîõî. Ýòî, êîíå÷íî, ñàìî ïî ñåáå îòðàâëÿåò íàøè îòíîøåíèÿ.

×òî êàñàåòñÿ íåïîñðåäñòâåííî òåìû, êîòîðóþ Âû ñåé÷àñ çàòðîíóëè, – óñûíîâëåíèÿ íàøèõ äåòåé èíîñòðàíöàìè. Íàñêîëüêî ÿ çíàþ îïðîñû îáùåñòâåííîãî ìíåíèÿ, ïîäàâëÿþùåå ÷èñëî ãðàæäàí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè âîîáùå íåãàòèâíî îòíîñèòñÿ ê òîìó, ÷òî èíîñòðàíöû óñûíîâëÿþò íàøèõ äåòåé. Íàì íóæíî ñàìèì ýòèì çàíèìàòüñÿ. Íàì íóæíî ñàìèì ñòèìóëèðîâàòü ïåðåäà÷ó â ñåìüè íàøèõ äåòåé, îñòàâøèõñÿ áåç ïîïå÷åíèÿ ðîäèòåëåé ëèáî ñèðîò.

 ýòîé ñâÿçè, ÿ äóìàþ, â÷åðàøíåå ïðåäëîæåíèå Äìèòðèÿ Àíàòîëüåâè÷à Ìåäâåäåâà ÿâëÿåòñÿ àáñîëþòíî ïðàâèëüíûì. Íóæíî ðàçâèâàòü âíóòðè ñòðàíû ýòî íàïðàâëåíèå äåÿòåëüíîñòè, ñíèìàòü áþðîêðàòè÷åñêèå áàðüåðû, ïîääåðæèâàòü åù¸ áîëüøå ñåìüè, êîòîðûå áåðóò äåòåé.

Òåïåðü ÷òî êàñàåòñÿ àìåðèêàíñêîé ñòîðîíû. Äåëî íå â êîíêðåòíûõ ëþäÿõ, àìåðèêàíñêèõ ãðàæäàíàõ, êîòîðûå óñûíîâëÿþò íàøèõ äåòåé. Òàì è òðàãåäèè ñëó÷àþòñÿ, è ìû îá ýòîì çíàåì, íî ïîäàâëÿþùåå áîëüøèíñòâî ëþäåé, êîòîðûå óñûíîâëÿþò íàøèõ äåòåé, âåäóò ñåáÿ î÷åíü àäåêâàòíî, ýòî äîáðûå ïîðÿäî÷íûå ëþäè. Ðåàêöèÿ äåïóòàòîâ Ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé Äóìû íå íà ýòó äåÿòåëüíîñòü, à íà ïîçèöèþ àìåðèêàíñêèõ âëàñòåé.  ÷¸ì çàêëþ÷àåòñÿ ýòà ïîçèöèÿ? À â òîì, ÷òî, êîãäà ïðåñòóïëåíèÿ â îòíîøåíèè óñûíîâë¸ííûõ ðîññèéñêèõ äåòåé ñîâåðøàþòñÿ, ÷àùå âñåãî àìåðèêàíñêàÿ Ôåìèäà âîîáùå íå ðåàãèðóåò è îñâîáîæäàåò îò óãîëîâíîé îòâåòñòâåííîñòè ëþäåé, êîòîðûå ÿâíî ñîâåðøèëè óãîëîâíîå äåÿíèå â îòíîøåíèè ðåá¸íêà. Íî è ýòî åù¸ íå âñ¸. Ðîññèéñêèõ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé ôàêòè÷åñêè íå äîïóñêàþò, äàæå â êà÷åñòâå íàáëþäàòåëåé, íà ýòè ïðîöåññû.

Ìû çàêëþ÷èëè ñåé÷àñ, íåäàâíî çàêëþ÷èëè, ìåæäó ãîñäåïîì è ÌÈÄîì ñîãëàøåíèå ïî ïîâîäó òîãî, êàê è ÷òî ìîãóò äåëàòü ïðåäñòàâèòåëè Ðîññèè â õîäå âîçíèêíîâåíèÿ ýòèõ êðèçèñíûõ èëè êîíôëèêòíûõ ñèòóàöèé. ×òî íà ïðàêòèêå ïîëó÷èëîñü? Íà ïðàêòèêå îêàçàëîñü, ÷òî ýòà ñôåðà äåÿòåëüíîñòè îòíåñåíà àìåðèêàíñêèì çàêîíîäàòåëüñòâîì íà óðîâåíü øòàòà. È êîãäà íàøè ïðåäñòàâèòåëè ïðèõîäÿò, äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû èñïîëíèòü ñâîè îáÿçàííîñòè â ðàìêàõ ýòîãî ñîãëàøåíèÿ, èì ãîâîðÿò: «À ýòî äåëî íå ôåäåðàëüíûõ âëàñòåé, à øòàòîâ, íà øòàòíîì óðîâíå ó âàñ íèêàêèõ ñîãëàøåíèé íåò. Èäèòå â ãîñäåï. Ñ êåì âû òàì çàêëþ÷àëè ñîãëàøåíèå, ñ òåì è ðàçáèðàéòåñü». À â ôåäåðàëüíûõ îðãàíàõ âëàñòè Ñîåäèí¸ííûõ Øòàòîâ îòñûëàþò íà óðîâåíü øòàòîâ. È çà÷åì òàêîå ñîãëàøåíèå? «Äóðî÷êó âêëþ÷èëè» ïðîñòî, è âñ¸. Äàæå íå ïóñêàþò â êà÷åñòâå íàáëþäàòåëåé, íå òîëüêî ó÷àñòíèêîâ ïðîöåññà.

Î ÷¸ì ïåêóòñÿ íàøè ïàðòí¸ðû â Øòàòàõ è àìåðèêàíñêèå çàêîíîäàòåëè? Î ïðàâàõ ÷åëîâåêà â íàøèõ òþðüìàõ, â ìåñòàõ ëèøåíèÿ ñâîáîäû. Õîðîøåå äåëî, íî ó íèõ ó ñàìèõ òàì ïîëíî ïðîáëåì. ß óæå ãîâîðèë îá ýòîì: Àáó-Ãðåéá, Ãóàíòàíàìî – ãîäàìè äåðæàò ëþäåé â òþðüìå áåç ïðåäúÿâëåíèÿ îáâèíåíèÿ. Ýòî âîîáùå óìó íåïîñòèæèìî. Ïðè÷¸ì íå ïðîñòî äåðæàò â òþðüìå áåç ïðåäúÿâëåíèÿ îáâèíåíèÿ, òàì â êàíäàëàõ õîäÿò ëþäè, êàê â ñðåäíèå âåêà. Âíóòðè ñîáñòâåííîé ñòðàíû ëåãàëèçîâàëè ïûòêè.

Âû ïðåäñòàâëÿåòå, ÷òî åñëè áû ó íàñ õîòü ÷òî-íèáóäü òàêîå áûëî? Ñ ïîòðîõàìè áû ñîæðàëè óæå äàâíî! Òàêóþ áû ðàçâåðíóëè ïî âñåìó ìèðó âàêõàíàëèþ! À òàì âñ¸ òèõî, òèøèíà. Âåäü ñêîëüêî ðàç áûëî îáåùàíî, ÷òî Ãóàíòàíàìî áóäåò çàêðûòà, à âîç è íûíå òàì. Ãäå ýòî? Òþðüìà ðàáîòàåò. Ìû íå çíàåì, ìîæåò áûòü, è ïûòêè ïðîäîëæàþòñÿ. Ýòè òàê íàçûâàåìûå ñåêðåòíûå òþðüìû ÖÐÓ. Êòî íàêàçàí? È íàì åù¸ óêàçûâàþò íà òî, ÷òî ó íàñ êàêèå-òî ïðîáëåìû åñòü. Íó äà, ñïàñèáî, ìû çíàåì. Íî ïðèíèìàòü íà ýòîé îñíîâå êàêèå-òî àíòèðîññèéñêèå àêòû – ýòî çàïðåäåëüíàÿ âåùü, íå ñïðîâîöèðîâàííàÿ íè÷åì ñ íàøåé ñòîðîíû.

ß ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî ýòî ýìîöèîíàëüíûé îòâåò Ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé Äóìû, íî ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî àäåêâàòíûé.

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[quote="Zabougornov"]Î÷åíü ïðàâèëüíûé è äîñòîéíûé îòâåò. Ïðåêðàñíàÿ àðãóìåíòàöèÿ! ׸òêî è ïî ïóíêòàì. Âñå ïóíêòû ëîãè÷íî îáîñíîâàíû, ñâÿçàíû ìåæäó ñîáîé è ñêëàäûâàþòñÿ â åäèíóþ ñòðîéíóþ êàðòèíó.

Âîò ÿ íå ïîíèìàþ, åñëè Çàáóãîðíîâó òàê íðàâèòñÿ Ïóòèí, ïî÷åìó îí íå â Ðîññèè?
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: , 26 2012, 09:14:52     :

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Î÷åíü ïðàâèëüíûé è äîñòîéíûé îòâåò. Ïðåêðàñíàÿ àðãóìåíòàöèÿ! ׸òêî è ïî ïóíêòàì. Âñå ïóíêòû ëîãè÷íî îáîñíîâàíû, ñâÿçàíû ìåæäó ñîáîé è ñêëàäûâàþòñÿ â åäèíóþ ñòðîéíóþ êàðòèíó.

Âîò ÿ íå ïîíèìàþ, åñëè Çàáóãîðíîâó òàê íðàâèòñÿ Ïóòèí, ïî÷åìó îí íå â Ðîññèè?
Ñòðàííûé âîïðîñ... È íå ïî ñóùåñòâó îáñóæäàåìîé òåìû.

Íà òàêîé ñòðàííûé âîïðîñ ìîæíî äàòü îòâåò òîëüêî â òàêîì æå ñòèëå: Ïîòîìó ÷òî ÿ çäåñü æèâó, à íå â Ðîññèè.

Âû õîòèòå ìåíÿ îáñóäèòü? Ìîè âçãëÿäû íà æèçíü? Òîãäà òàê ïðÿìî è ñêàæèòå, îòêðîåì òåìó, îáñóäèì.
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: , 27 2012, 08:26:55     :

Äà, èíòåðåñíû Âàøè âçãëÿäû íà æèçíü. Èç òîãî, ÷òî óñïåëà ïîñìîòðåòü â îáñóæäåíèÿõ, íå ñìîãëà óÿñíèòü äëÿ ñåáÿ Âàøó ïîçèöèþ. È âîñòîðãè ïî ïîâîäó ÷åòêîãî è ÿñíîãî îòâåòà Ïóòèíà óäèâèëè. ÌÎæåò áûòü, ÿ íå óâèäåëà âàøèõ âçãëÿäîâ íà ôîðóìå, à îíè óæå îáñóæäàëèñü, òîãäà èçâèíÿþñü çà ïîâòîð.
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: , 27 2012, 10:07:32     :

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Äà, èíòåðåñíû Âàøè âçãëÿäû íà æèçíü. Èç òîãî, ÷òî óñïåëà ïîñìîòðåòü â îáñóæäåíèÿõ, íå ñìîãëà óÿñíèòü äëÿ ñåáÿ Âàøó ïîçèöèþ. È âîñòîðãè ïî ïîâîäó ÷åòêîãî è ÿñíîãî îòâåòà Ïóòèíà óäèâèëè. ÌÎæåò áûòü, ÿ íå óâèäåëà âàøèõ âçãëÿäîâ íà ôîðóìå, à îíè óæå îáñóæäàëèñü, òîãäà èçâèíÿþñü çà ïîâòîð.

Ìîþ ïîçèöèþ ïî êàêîìó âîïðîñó? ß òóò ìíîãî ÷åãî îáñóæäàë.....

À ïî÷åìó ìîÿ îöåíêà îòâåòà Ïóòèíà Âàñ óäèâëÿåò? ×òî çäåñü óäèâèòåëüíîãî? ׸òêèå, ÿñíûå è óáåäèòåëüíûå îòâåòû íå ÷àñòî âñòðå÷àþòñÿ. ×àñòî âñòðå÷àþòñÿ ëèáî íåñïîñîáíîñòü ÷åëîâåêà îòâåòèòü íà âîïðîñ, òîãäà îí íà÷èíàåò ðàñòåêàòüñÿ ìûñëüþ ïî äðåâó. Èëè âûâàëèâàåò âñ¸ ÷òî îí çíàåò ïî òåìå çàáûâ âîïðîñ. Ëèáî íåæåëàíèå îòâå÷àòü, òîãäà ÷åëîâåê, áûâàåò, ïîäìåíÿåò âîïðîñ, èëè îáñóæäàåò íå ñóòü äåëà, à âòîðîñòåïåííûå äåòàëè, ëèáî ïðîâîöèðóåò ñîáåñåäíèêà íà ñêàíäàë, ïåðåõîäÿ íà ëè÷íîñòè. È ýòî äàëåêî íå ïîëíûé ñïèñîê óõèùðåíèé.
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: 06.03.2005
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Ôåäåðàëüíûé çàêîí îò 28 äåêàáðÿ 2012 ãîäà ¹ 272-ÔÇ "Î ìåðàõ âîçäåéñòâèÿ íà ëèö, ïðè÷àñòíûõ ê íàðóøåíèÿì îñíîâîïîëàãàþùèõ ïðàâ è ñâîáîä ÷åëîâåêà, ïðàâ è ñâîáîä ãðàæäàí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè"

Ôåäåðàëüíûé çàêîí îò 28 äåêàáðÿ 2012 ãîäà ¹ 272-ÔÇ "Î ìåðàõ âîçäåéñòâèÿ íà ëèö, ïðè÷àñòíûõ ê íàðóøåíèÿì îñíîâîïîëàãàþùèõ ïðàâ è ñâîáîä ÷åëîâåêà, ïðàâ è ñâîáîä ãðàæäàí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè"

Ïðèíÿò Ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé Äóìîé 21 äåêàáðÿ 2012 ãîäà

Îäîáðåí Ñîâåòîì Ôåäåðàöèè 26 äåêàáðÿ 2012 ãîäà

Ñòàòüÿ 1

Ê ìåðàì âîçäåéñòâèÿ íà ëèö, ïðè÷àñòíûõ ê íàðóøåíèÿì îñíîâîïîëàãàþùèõ ïðàâ è ñâîáîä ÷åëîâåêà, ïðàâ è ñâîáîä ãðàæäàí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, îòíîñÿòñÿ:

1) çàïðåò íà âúåçä â Ðîññèéñêóþ Ôåäåðàöèþ ãðàæäàí Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ Àìåðèêè:

à) ïðè÷àñòíûõ ê íàðóøåíèÿì îñíîâîïîëàãàþùèõ ïðàâ è ñâîáîä ÷åëîâåêà;

á) ñîâåðøèâøèõ ïðåñòóïëåíèÿ â îòíîøåíèè ãðàæäàí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, íàõîäÿùèõñÿ çà ðóáåæîì, èëè ïðè÷àñòíûõ ê èõ ñîâåðøåíèþ;

â) íàäåëåííûõ ãîñóäàðñòâåííûìè ïîëíîìî÷èÿìè è ñïîñîáñòâîâàâøèõ ñâîèìè äåéñòâèÿìè (áåçäåéñòâèåì) îñâîáîæäåíèþ îò îòâåòñòâåííîñòè ëèö, ñîâåðøèâøèõ ïðåñòóïëåíèÿ â îòíîøåíèè ãðàæäàí

Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè èëè ïðè÷àñòíûõ ê èõ ñîâåðøåíèþ;

ã) â ÷üè äîëæíîñòíûå îáÿçàííîñòè âõîäèëî ïðèíÿòèå ðåøåíèé, îòñóòñòâèå èëè íàëè÷èå êîòîðûõ ïðèâåëî ê îñâîáîæäåíèþ îò îòâåòñòâåííîñòè ëèö, ñîâåðøèâøèõ ïðåñòóïëåíèÿ â îòíîøåíèè ãðàæäàí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè èëè ïðè÷àñòíûõ ê èõ ñîâåðøåíèþ;

ä) ïðè÷àñòíûõ ê ïîõèùåíèþ è íåçàêîííîìó ëèøåíèþ ñâîáîäû ãðàæäàí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè;

å) âûíåñøèõ íåîáîñíîâàííûå è íåñïðàâåäëèâûå ïðèãîâîðû â îòíîøåíèè ãðàæäàí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè;

æ) îñóùåñòâëÿþùèõ íåîáîñíîâàííîå þðèäè÷åñêîå ïðåñëåäîâàíèå ãðàæäàí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè;

ç) ïðèíÿâøèõ íåîáîñíîâàííûå ðåøåíèÿ, íàðóøèâøèå ïðàâà è çàêîííûå èíòåðåñû ãðàæäàí è îðãàíèçàöèé Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè;

2) àðåñò íà òåððèòîðèè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè ôèíàíñîâûõ è èíûõ àêòèâîâ ãðàæäàí Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ Àìåðèêè, êîòîðûì çàïðåùåí âúåçä â Ðîññèéñêóþ Ôåäåðàöèþ, è çàïðåò íà ëþáûå ñäåëêè ñ ñîáñòâåííîñòüþ è èíâåñòèöèÿìè ýòèõ ãðàæäàí.

Ñòàòüÿ 2

1. Ñïèñîê ãðàæäàí Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ Àìåðèêè, êîòîðûì çàïðåùàåòñÿ âúåçä â Ðîññèéñêóþ Ôåäåðàöèþ, è îðãàíèçàöèé, äåÿòåëüíîñòü êîòîðûõ ïðèîñòàíîâëåíà â ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñî ñòàòüåé 3 íàñòîÿùåãî Ôåäåðàëüíîãî çàêîíà, âåäåòñÿ ôåäåðàëüíûì îðãàíîì èñïîëíèòåëüíîé âëàñòè, îñóùåñòâëÿþùèì ôóíêöèè ïî âûðàáîòêå è ðåàëèçàöèè ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé ïîëèòèêè è íîðìàòèâíî-ïðàâîâîìó ðåãóëèðîâàíèþ â ñôåðå ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ îòíîøåíèé Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè.

2.  îòíîøåíèè ãðàæäàí Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ Àìåðèêè, âêëþ÷åííûõ â ñïèñîê, ïðåäóñìîòðåííûé ÷àñòüþ 1 íàñòîÿùåé ñòàòüè:

1) óñòàíàâëèâàåòñÿ çàïðåò íà ðàñïîðÿæåíèå èìóùåñòâîì, íàõîäÿùèìñÿ íà òåððèòîðèè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè;

2) ïðèîñòàíàâëèâàåòñÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü íà òåððèòîðèè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè íàõîäÿùèõñÿ ïîä èõ êîíòðîëåì þðèäè÷åñêèõ ëèö;

3) ïðèîñòàíàâëèâàþòñÿ ïîëíîìî÷èÿ (÷ëåíñòâî) â ñîâåòàõ äèðåêòîðîâ èëè èíûõ îðãàíàõ óïðàâëåíèÿ îðãàíèçàöèé, çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûõ íà òåððèòîðèè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè.

3. Ïðåäëîæåíèÿ î âíåñåíèè èçìåíåíèé â ñïèñîê, ïðåäóñìîòðåííûé ÷àñòüþ 1 íàñòîÿùåé ñòàòüè, ìîãóò ïðåäñòàâëÿòüñÿ â ôåäåðàëüíûé îðãàí èñïîëíèòåëüíîé âëàñòè, îñóùåñòâëÿþùèé ôóíêöèè ïî âûðàáîòêå è ðåàëèçàöèè ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé ïîëèòèêè è íîðìàòèâíî-ïðàâîâîìó ðåãóëèðîâàíèþ â ñôåðå ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ îòíîøåíèé Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, ÷ëåíàìè Ñîâåòà Ôåäåðàöèè Ôåäåðàëüíîãî Ñîáðàíèÿ Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, äåïóòàòàìè Ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé Äóìû Ôåäåðàëüíîãî Ñîáðàíèÿ Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, Óïîëíîìî÷åííûì ïî ïðàâàì ÷åëîâåêà â Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, ïîëèòè÷åñêèìè ïàðòèÿìè, Îáùåñòâåííîé ïàëàòîé Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, à òàêæå ãîñóäàðñòâåííûìè îðãàíàìè.

4. Ïîðÿäîê âåäåíèÿ ñïèñêà, ïðåäóñìîòðåííîãî ÷àñòüþ 1 íàñòîÿùåé ñòàòüè, îïðåäåëÿåòñÿ ôåäåðàëüíûì îðãàíîì èñïîëíèòåëüíîé âëàñòè, îñóùåñòâëÿþùèì ôóíêöèè ïî âûðàáîòêå è ðåàëèçàöèè ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé ïîëèòèêè è íîðìàòèâíî-ïðàâîâîìó ðåãóëèðîâàíèþ â ñôåðå ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ îòíîøåíèé Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè.

5. Ðóêîâîäèòåëü ôåäåðàëüíîãî îðãàíà èñïîëíèòåëüíîé âëàñòè, îñóùåñòâëÿþùåãî ôóíêöèè ïî âûðàáîòêå è ðåàëèçàöèè ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé ïîëèòèêè è íîðìàòèâíî-ïðàâîâîìó ðåãóëèðîâàíèþ â ñôåðå ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ îòíîøåíèé Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, íå ðåæå îäíîãî ðàçà â ãîä èíôîðìèðóåò ïàëàòû Ôåäåðàëüíîãî Ñîáðàíèÿ Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè î õîäå âûïîëíåíèÿ íàñòîÿùåãî Ôåäåðàëüíîãî çàêîíà.

Ñòàòüÿ 3

1.  ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñ íàñòîÿùèì Ôåäåðàëüíûì çàêîíîì äåÿòåëüíîñòü íåêîììåð÷åñêèõ îðãàíèçàöèé, êîòîðûå ó÷àñòâóþò â ïîëèòè÷åñêîé äåÿòåëüíîñòè, îñóùåñòâëÿåìîé íà òåððèòîðèè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, è áåçâîçìåçäíî ïîëó÷àþò äåíåæíûå ñðåäñòâà è èíîå èìóùåñòâî îò ãðàæäàí (îðãàíèçàöèé) Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ Àìåðèêè èëè ðåàëèçóþò íà òåððèòîðèè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè ïðîåêòû, ïðîãðàììû ëèáî îñóùåñòâëÿþò èíóþ äåÿòåëüíîñòü, êîòîðûå ïðåäñòàâëÿþò óãðîçó èíòåðåñàì Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, ïðèîñòàíàâëèâàåòñÿ ôåäåðàëüíûì îðãàíîì èñïîëíèòåëüíîé âëàñòè, îñóùåñòâëÿþùèì ôóíêöèè ïî âûðàáîòêå è ðåàëèçàöèè ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé ïîëèòèêè è íîðìàòèâíî-ïðàâîâîìó ðåãóëèðîâàíèþ â ñôåðå ðåãèñòðàöèè íåêîììåð÷åñêèõ îðãàíèçàöèé. Ôåäåðàëüíûé îðãàí èñïîëíèòåëüíîé âëàñòè, îñóùåñòâëÿþùèé ôóíêöèè ïî âûðàáîòêå è ðåàëèçàöèè ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé ïîëèòèêè è íîðìàòèâíî-ïðàâîâîìó ðåãóëèðîâàíèþ â ñôåðå ðåãèñòðàöèè íåêîììåð÷åñêèõ îðãàíèçàöèé, íàïðàâëÿåò ñâåäåíèÿ î íåêîììåð÷åñêèõ îðãàíèçàöèÿõ, äåÿòåëüíîñòü êîòîðûõ ïðèîñòàíîâëåíà, â ôåäåðàëüíûé îðãàí èñïîëíèòåëüíîé âëàñòè, îñóùåñòâëÿþùèé ôóíêöèè ïî âûðàáîòêå è ðåàëèçàöèè ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé ïîëèòèêè è íîðìàòèâíî-ïðàâîâîìó ðåãóëèðîâàíèþ â ñôåðå ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ îòíîøåíèé Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè.

2. Ãðàæäàíèí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, èìåþùèé ãðàæäàíñòâî Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ Àìåðèêè, íå ìîæåò áûòü ÷ëåíîì èëè ðóêîâîäèòåëåì íåêîììåð÷åñêîé îðãàíèçàöèè, åå ñòðóêòóðíîãî ïîäðàçäåëåíèÿ ëèáî ñòðóêòóðíîãî ïîäðàçäåëåíèÿ ìåæäóíàðîäíîé èëè èíîñòðàííîé íåêîììåð÷åñêîé îðãàíèçàöèè (îòäåëåíèÿ, ôèëèàëà èëè ïðåäñòàâèòåëüñòâà), ó÷àñòâóþùèõ â ïîëèòè÷åñêîé äåÿòåëüíîñòè, îñóùåñòâëÿåìîé íà òåððèòîðèè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè. Íàðóøåíèå äàííîãî çàïðåòà âëå÷åò çà ñîáîé ïðèîñòàíîâëåíèå ôåäåðàëüíûì îðãàíîì èñïîëíèòåëüíîé âëàñòè, îñóùåñòâëÿþùèì ôóíêöèè ïî âûðàáîòêå è ðåàëèçàöèè ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé ïîëèòèêè è íîðìàòèâíî-ïðàâîâîìó ðåãóëèðîâàíèþ â ñôåðå ðåãèñòðàöèè íåêîììåð÷åñêèõ îðãàíèçàöèé, äåÿòåëüíîñòè óêàçàííîé íåêîììåð÷åñêîé îðãàíèçàöèè (ñòðóêòóðíîãî ïîäðàçäåëåíèÿ).

3. Ïðèîñòàíîâëåíèå äåÿòåëüíîñòè íåêîììåð÷åñêîé îðãàíèçàöèè (ñòðóêòóðíîãî ïîäðàçäåëåíèÿ) â ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñ ÷àñòÿìè 1 è 2 íàñòîÿùåé ñòàòüè âëå÷åò íàñòóïëåíèå ïîñëåäñòâèé, ïðåäóñìîòðåííûõ àáçàöåì ïåðâûì ïóíêòà 61 ñòàòüè 32 Ôåäåðàëüíîãî çàêîíà îò 12 ÿíâàðÿ 1996 ãîäà ¹ 7-ÔÇ "Î íåêîììåð÷åñêèõ îðãàíèçàöèÿõ".  îòíîøåíèè èìóùåñòâà íåêîììåð÷åñêèõ îðãàíèçàöèé (ñòðóêòóðíûõ ïîäðàçäåëåíèé), äåÿòåëüíîñòü êîòîðûõ ïðèîñòàíàâëèâàåòñÿ â ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñ ÷àñòÿìè 1 è 2 íàñòîÿùåé ñòàòüè, ðåøåíèå î íàëîæåíèè íà íåãî àðåñòà ïðèíèìàåòñÿ ñóäîì ïî çàÿâëåíèþ ôåäåðàëüíîãî îðãàíà èñïîëíèòåëüíîé âëàñòè, îñóùåñòâëÿþùåãî ôóíêöèè ïî âûðàáîòêå è ðåàëèçàöèè ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé ïîëèòèêè è íîðìàòèâíî-ïðàâîâîìó ðåãóëèðîâàíèþ â ñôåðå ðåãèñòðàöèè íåêîììåð÷åñêèõ îðãàíèçàöèé.

4.  ñëó÷àå, åñëè íåêîììåð÷åñêàÿ îðãàíèçàöèÿ, äåÿòåëüíîñòü êîòîðîé áûëà ïðèîñòàíîâëåíà â ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñ íàñòîÿùèì Ôåäåðàëüíûì çàêîíîì, ïðåêðàòèò áåçâîçìåçäíîå ïîëó÷åíèå äåíåæíûõ ñðåäñòâ è èíîãî èìóùåñòâà îò ãðàæäàí (îðãàíèçàöèé) Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ Àìåðèêè ëèáî ïðåêðàòèò íà òåððèòîðèè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè ðåàëèçàöèþ ïðîåêòîâ, ïðîãðàìì ëèáî îñóùåñòâëåíèå èíîé äåÿòåëüíîñòè, êîòîðûå ïðåäñòàâëÿþò óãðîçó èíòåðåñàì Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, äåÿòåëüíîñòü òàêîé îðãàíèçàöèè âîçîáíîâëÿåòñÿ ïî ðåøåíèþ ôåäåðàëüíîãî îðãàíà èñïîëíèòåëüíîé âëàñòè, îñóùåñòâëÿþùåãî ôóíêöèè ïî âûðàáîòêå è ðåàëèçàöèè ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé ïîëèòèêè è íîðìàòèâíî-ïðàâîâîìó ðåãóëèðîâàíèþ â ñôåðå ðåãèñòðàöèè íåêîììåð÷åñêèõ îðãàíèçàöèé.

Ñòàòüÿ 4

1. Çàïðåùàåòñÿ ïåðåäà÷à äåòåé, ÿâëÿþùèõñÿ ãðàæäàíàìè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, íà óñûíîâëåíèå (óäî÷åðåíèå) ãðàæäàíàì Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ Àìåðèêè, à òàêæå îñóùåñòâëåíèå íà òåððèòîðèè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè äåÿòåëüíîñòè îðãàíîâ è îðãàíèçàöèé â öåëÿõ ïîäáîðà è ïåðåäà÷è äåòåé, ÿâëÿþùèõñÿ ãðàæäàíàìè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, íà óñûíîâëåíèå (óäî÷åðåíèå) ãðàæäàíàì Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ Àìåðèêè, æåëàþùèì óñûíîâèòü (óäî÷åðèòü) óêàçàííûõ äåòåé.

2.  ñâÿçè ñ óñòàíîâëåííûì ÷àñòüþ 1 íàñòîÿùåé ñòàòüè çàïðåòîì íà ïåðåäà÷ó äåòåé, ÿâëÿþùèõñÿ ãðàæäàíàìè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, íà óñûíîâëåíèå (óäî÷åðåíèå) ãðàæäàíàì Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ Àìåðèêè ïðåêðàòèòü îò èìåíè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè äåéñòâèå Ñîãëàøåíèÿ ìåæäó Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèåé è Ñîåäèíåííûìè Øòàòàìè Àìåðèêè î ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâå â îáëàñòè óñûíîâëåíèÿ (óäî÷åðåíèÿ) äåòåé, ïîäïèñàííîãî â ãîðîäå Âàøèíãòîíå 13 èþëÿ 2011 ãîäà.

Ñòàòüÿ 5

Âíåñòè â ïîäïóíêò 7 ÷àñòè ïåðâîé ñòàòüè 27 Ôåäåðàëüíîãî çàêîíà îò 15 àâãóñòà 1996 ãîäà ¹ 114-ÔÇ "Î ïîðÿäêå âûåçäà èç Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè è âúåçäà â Ðîññèéñêóþ Ôåäåðàöèþ" (Ñîáðàíèå çàêîíîäàòåëüñòâà Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, 1996, ¹ 34, ñò. 4029; 2003, ¹ 2, ñò. 159; 2006, ¹ 31, ñò. 3420; 2007, ¹ 3, ñò. 410; 2008, ¹ 19, ñò. 2094; ¹ 30, ñò. 3616) èçìåíåíèå, èçëîæèâ åãî â ñëåäóþùåé ðåäàêöèè:
"7) â îòíîøåíèè èíîñòðàííîãî ãðàæäàíèíà èëè ëèöà áåç ãðàæäàíñòâà ïðèíÿòî ðåøåíèå î íåæåëàòåëüíîñòè ïðåáûâàíèÿ (ïðîæèâàíèÿ) â Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, â òîì ÷èñëå åñëè ýòîò ãðàæäàíèí âêëþ÷åí â ñïèñîê ãðàæäàí Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ Àìåðèêè, êîòîðûì çàïðåùàåòñÿ âúåçä â Ðîññèéñêóþ Ôåäåðàöèþ;".

Ñòàòüÿ 6

Äåéñòâèå íàñòîÿùåãî Ôåäåðàëüíîãî çàêîíà è ïîäïóíêòà 7 ÷àñòè ïåðâîé ñòàòüè 27 Ôåäåðàëüíîãî çàêîíà îò 15 àâãóñòà 1996 ãîäà ¹ 114-ÔÇ "Î ïîðÿäêå âûåçäà èç Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè è âúåçäà â Ðîññèéñêóþ Ôåäåðàöèþ" (â ðåäàêöèè íàñòîÿùåãî Ôåäåðàëüíîãî çàêîíà) ðàñïðîñòðàíÿåòñÿ íà ãðàæäàí ãîñóäàðñòâ, êîòîðûå ïðèíÿëè ðåøåíèå î çàïðåòå âúåçäà ãðàæäàí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè íà òåððèòîðèè ýòèõ ãîñóäàðñòâ è îá àðåñòå àêòèâîâ ãðàæäàí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè ïî ìîòèâó ïðè÷àñòíîñòè ãðàæäàí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè ê íàðóøåíèÿì ïðàâ ÷åëîâåêà â Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè.

Ñòàòüÿ 7

Íàñòîÿùèé Ôåäåðàëüíûé çàêîí âñòóïàåò â ñèëó ñ 1 ÿíâàðÿ 2013 ãîäà.

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Âîêðóã ïîäïèñàííîãî ñåãîäíÿ Ïðåçèäåíòîì Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè Â.Â.Ïóòèíûì «Çàêîíà Äèìû ßêîâëåâà» â àìåðèêàíñêèõ ïîëèòè÷åñêèõ è îáùåñòâåííûõ êðóãàõ ðàçâîðà÷èâàåòñÿ ïðîïàãàíäèñòñêàÿ êàìïàíèÿ, öåëü êîòîðîé – äîêàçàòü, ÷òî óñûíîâëåíèå ðîññèéñêèõ äåòåé ãðàæäàíàìè ÑØÀ ÷óòü ëè íå åäèíñòâåííûé øàíñ äëÿ íèõ îáðåñòè ñ÷àñòëèâîå áóäóùåå.

 ñâÿçè ñ ïîñòóïàþùèìè âîïðîñàìè î òîì, ïî÷åìó ïðåêðàùåíî óñûíîâëåíèå èìåííî àìåðèêàíöàìè, õîòåëè áû ñîîáùèòü ñëåäóþùåå.

Äåéñòâèòåëüíî, â Àìåðèêå íåìàëî ëþäåé ñ òåïëûì ñåðäöåì, êîòîðûå èñêðåííå îòäàþò ñâîþ ëþáîâü ïðèåìíûì ñûíîâüÿì è äî÷åðÿì, â òîì ÷èñëå äåòÿì ñ îãðàíè÷åííûìè âîçìîæíîñòÿìè. Íî ýòî òîëüêî ÷àñòü ïðàâäû. Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, åñòü è äðóãàÿ ñòîðîíà ìåäàëè, êîãäà íàøè ìàëåíüêèå ãðàæäàíå óñûíîâëÿþòñÿ ðîäèòåëÿìè èíîãî ñîðòà, ïîïàäàÿ â îò÷àÿííûå ñèòóàöèè áåç êàêîé-ëèáî ïðàâîâîé çàùèòû. È ýòî íå âîïðîñ ñòàòèñòèêè (õîòÿ è îíà íå òàê ðàäóæíà, êàê åå ïîäàþò â ÑØÀ), íî ñóäüáû, à áûâàåò – è ïðàâà ðåáåíêà íà æèçíü.

Åñëè æå ãîâîðèòü î ñòàòèñòèêå, òî çàïóùåííûå â îáîðîò äàííûå î ÷èñëå ðîññèéñêèõ äåòåé, ïîãèáøèõ îò ðóê àìåðèêàíñêèõ óñûíîâèòåëåé (19 íåñîâåðøåííîëåòíèõ ñ 1996 ã.), – ëèøü âåðõóøêà àéñáåðãà. Ýòî òîëüêî ïîäòâåðæäåííûå ñëó÷àè, î êîòîðûõ ñòàëî øèðîêî èçâåñòíî. Îôèöèàëüíàÿ ñòàòèñòèêà ïî äàííîìó âîïðîñó â ÑØÀ îòñóòñòâóåò. Åñëè â ÑÌÈ ïî òåì èëè èíûì ïðè÷èíàì íå ïîïàäåò èíôîðìàöèÿ î ïðîèñõîæäåíèè ïîãèáøåãî ðåáåíêà, óçíàòü î åãî ðîññèéñêèõ êîðíÿõ ïðàêòè÷åñêè íåâîçìîæíî. Ïî ïðèáûòèè â Ñîåäèíåííûå Øòàòû Àìåðèêè âñå óñûíîâëåííûå ïðèîáðåòàþò àìåðèêàíñêîå ãðàæäàíñòâî, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, è àìåðèêàíñêèå èìåíà è ôàìèëèè.

Äà è â öåëîì â ÑØÀ îáñòàíîâêà ñ óñûíîâëåíèåì – íå èç ëó÷øèõ. Ñîãëàñíî äàííûì ÍÏÎ «Àìåðèêàíñêîå ïðîôåññèîíàëüíîå îáùåñòâî ïî áîðüáå ñî çëîóïîòðåáëåíèÿìè â îòíîøåíèè äåòåé» (American Professional Society on Abuse of Children), êàæäîå ÷åòâåðòîå ìåæäóíàðîäíîå óñûíîâëåíèå òàì çàêàí÷èâàåòñÿ íåóäà÷åé è ïðèâîäèò ê ïñèõîëîãè÷åñêîìó èëè ôèçè÷åñêîìó óùåðáó äëÿ ðåáåíêà.

Âûçûâàåò òðåâîãó è îáùàÿ ïðàêòèêà æåñòîêîãî îáðàùåíèÿ ñ äåòüìè. Ïî èíôîðìàöèè ÍÏÎ «×àéëäõåëï» (Childhelp), åæåäíåâíî â ÑØÀ îò æåñòîêîãî îáðàùåíèÿ ïîãèáàþò â ñðåäíåì ïÿòü äåòåé. Ïî îöåíêàì ïðàâîçàùèòíèêîâ, â 50-60% ñëó÷àåâ ãèáåëè ðåáåíêà îò ðóê âçðîñëûõ èñòèííàÿ ïðè÷èíà ñìåðòè ñêðûâàåòñÿ.  èòîãå, êàê ïîäñ÷èòàëè â ÍÏÎ «Íàöèîíàëüíàÿ êîàëèöèÿ çà ïðåêðàùåíèå äåòñêèõ ñìåðòåé îò íàñèëèÿ» (NCECAD), ñ 2001 ã. ÷èñëî ïîãèáøèõ â ÑØÀ äåòåé â òðè ðàçà ïðåâûñèëî ïîòåðè àìåðèêàíñêèõ âîåííûõ â çîíàõ êîíôëèêòîâ çà òîò æå ïåðèîä.

Ê ïðèìåðó, íè â Èòàëèè, íè â Èñïàíèè, êîòîðûå íåçíà÷èòåëüíî îòñòàþò îò ÑØÀ ïî ÷èñëó óñûíîâëåííûõ ðîññèéñêèõ äåòåé (â 2011 ã. àìåðèêàíöû, èòàëüÿíöû è èñïàíöû óñûíîâèëè, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, 965, 798 è 685 äåòåé èç Ðîññèè), âîïèþùèõ ñëó÷àåâ æåñòîêîãî îáðàùåíèÿ ñ óñûíîâëåííûìè è òåì áîëåå èõ ãèáåëè íå îòìå÷åíî.

Íå ïîäòâåðæäàåòñÿ è ðàñïðîñòðàíÿåìîå â ÑÌÈ ìíåíèå, ÷òî àìåðèêàíöû â îñíîâíîì óñûíîâëÿþò â Ðîññèè äåòåé-èíâàëèäîâ.  2011 ã. íà 965 óñûíîâëåííûõ ãðàæäàíàìè ÑØÀ ïðèøëîñü, ïî ðàçíûì äàííûì, ëèøü îò 44 äî 89 íåñîâåðøåííîëåòíèõ ñ îãðàíè÷åííûìè âîçìîæíîñòÿìè.

Óìåñòíî òàêæå íàïîìíèòü, ÷òî ÑØÀ (â êîìïàíèè ñ Ñîìàëè è Þæíûì Ñóäàíîì) íå ó÷àñòâóþò â Êîíâåíöèè ÎÎÍ î ïðàâàõ ðåáåíêà ïîä ïðåäëîãîì òîãî, ÷òî ýòîò óíèâåðñàëüíûé äîãîâîð ïîäðûâàåò «òðàäèöèîííûå ïðèíöèïû» àìåðèêàíñêîãî çàêîíîäàòåëüñòâà è âîñïèòàíèÿ.  èõ ÷èñëå, ïî äàííûì ÍÏÎ «Ðîäèòåëüñêèå ïðàâà», – òàêîé îáùåïðèíÿòûé «ìåòîä âîñïèòàíèÿ», êàê «ðàçóìíàÿ ïîðêà» (reasonable spankings).  øêîëàõ 19 øòàòîâ ÑØÀ äî ñèõ ïîð ðàçðåøåíû òåëåñíûå íàêàçàíèÿ. Ñîãëàñíî èíôîðìàöèè ðÿäà îáùåñòâåííûõ îðãàíèçàöèé, äâå òðåòè ðîäèòåëåé çàíèìàþòñÿ ðóêîïðèêëàäñòâîì.

Ñòîðîííèêîâ «òðàäèöèîííûõ ìåòîäîâ âîñïèòàíèÿ» òàêæå íå óñòðàèâàåò, ÷òî Êîíâåíöèÿ ãàðàíòèðóåò äåòÿì òàêèå ñâîáîäû, êàê ïðàâî âûáèðàòü ñîáñòâåííóþ ðåëèãèþ, «áûòü âûñëóøàííûì», ïðàâî íà ñâîáîäíîå âðåìÿ. Â ÑØÀ íå ââåäåí è çàïðåò íà âûíåñåíèå ïîæèçíåííûõ ïðèãîâîðîâ íåñîâåðøåííîëåòíèì.

 ñëó÷àå íåóäà÷íûõ èíîñòðàííûõ óñûíîâëåíèé àìåðèêàíñêîå îáùåñòâî, ïðàâîîõðàíèòåëüíûå îðãàíû è ñóäû ñêëîííû âñòàâàòü íà ñòîðîíó óñûíîâèòåëåé, à íå óñûíîâëåííûõ. Ïðèìåíèòåëüíî ê ðîññèéñêèì äåòÿì ïðè÷èíó áåä îíè âèäÿò â «ïëîõîé íàñëåäñòâåííîñòè» è «äåòäîìîâñêîì äåòñòâå». Ê òîìó æå â ÑØÀ ñôîðìèðîâàëàñü ãðóïïà ïñåâäîýêñïåðòîâ-«ïñèõîëîãîâ», êîòîðûå çà ñîîòâåòñòâóþùåå âîçíàãðàæäåíèå (300-400 äîëë. â ÷àñ) ãîòîâû äîêàçûâàòü íàëè÷èå ò.í. «ðåàêòèâíîãî ðàññòðîéñòâà ïðèâÿçàííîñòè», åñëè ðåáåíîê èç íàøåé ñòðàíû.

Íå áåç ïîìîùè òàêèõ «ñïåöèàëèñòîâ» àìåðèêàíöàì, èçäåâàâøèìñÿ íàä ïðèåìíûìè äåòüìè èç Ðîññèè, óäàâàëîñü óéòè îò îòâåòñòâåííîñòè èëè îòäåëàòüñÿ ñèìâîëè÷åñêèìè íàêàçàíèÿìè.  2008 ã. ñóä ãðàôñòâà Ôýéðôàêñ ïîëíîñòüþ îïðàâäàë Ì.Õýððèñîíà, îñòàâèâøåãî ñâîåãî 21-ìåñÿ÷íîãî ñûíà Ä.ßêîâëåâà ïðèâÿçàííûì â ìàøèíå íà 9 ÷àñîâ â 50-ãðàäóñíóþ æàðó. Ñóïðóãè Êðåéâåðû ïîëó÷èëè 16 ìåñÿöåâ òþðüìû çà «óáèéñòâî ïî íåîñòîðîæíîñòè» È.Ñêîðîáîãàòîâà (ïîñëå ñìåðòè íà òåëå ìàëü÷èêà áûëî îáíàðóæåíî 80 ðàí, âêëþ÷àÿ òÿæåëåéøóþ ÷åðåïíî-ìîçãîâóþ). Á.Äèêñòðà áûë ïðèçíàí íåâèíîâíûì â ñìåðòè óñûíîâëåííîãî èì È.Êàðãûíöåâà, íåñìîòðÿ íà òî, ÷òî ñóäìåäýêñïåðòû çàÿâëÿëè î íåïðàâäîïîäîáíîñòè âåðñèè îòöà, áóäòî áû ìàëü÷èê óïàë ñ ëåñòíèöû.

Âìåñòå ñ òåì çà àíàëîãè÷íûå ïðåñòóïëåíèÿ ïðîòèâ àìåðèêàíñêèõ äåòåé èõ ðîäèòåëè, êàê ïðàâèëî, ïðèãîâàðèâàþòñÿ ê ïîæèçíåííîìó çàêëþ÷åíèþ.  ÷àñòíîñòè, íåäàâíî â ïðåññå ñîîáùàëîñü î 99-ëåòíåì òþðåìíîì ñðîêå, êîòîðûé ïîëó÷èëà ìàòü, ïðèêëåèâøàÿ ê ñòåíå ðóêè äî÷åðè, à äðóãàÿ ãîðå-ðîäèòåëü çàðàáîòàëà ïîæèçíåííûé ñðîê, çàáèâ äî ñìåðòè ñâîåãî 4-ëåòíåãî ðåáåíêà.


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: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

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À â Øòàòàõ îêàçûâàåòñÿ äåòåé ïîðþò, è äîìà, è â øêîëå. È âñ¸ ýòî ëåãàëüíî. Âî âñåõ Øòàòàõ. Ïîðþò èëè âðó÷íóþ, èëè èñïîëüçóÿ äåðåâÿííûå èíñòðóìåíòû äëÿ ïîðêè. Âîò òàêèå:


Îäèí îòåö íàí¸ñ òàêèì ïðèñïîñîáëåíèåì 36 óäàðîâ ñâîåìó 12-òè ëåòíåìó ñûíó. È íè÷åãî.....Îïðàâäàëè....

Âàõ! Êàê ëþáÿò äåòåé! Ýòî ÷òî-òî....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment_in_the_home#United_States
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United States

Despite some opposition to corporal punishment in the United States, the spanking of children is legal in all states.[24] Bans have been proposed in Massachusetts[25] and California[26][27] on all corporal punishment of children, including by parents, but these moves were heavily defeated.[28]

The legality of corporal punishment in the US is typically established by the making of special exceptions in the state's law on the crimes of assault, criminal battery, domestic violence and/or child abuse. These laws usually establish that no crime has been committed when certain actions are applied to a minor by that child's parent or legal caregiver. However, the language is often vague. The line between permitted corporal punishment and what is legally defined as abuse varies by state and is not always clear (laws typically allow "reasonable force" and "non-excessive corporal punishment"). For example, two different articles of the Minnesota Legislature allow parents and teachers to use corporal punishment as a form of discipline by creating explicit exceptions to the state's child abuse statutes for "reasonable and moderate physical discipline."[29][30] Also, in 2008 the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled that spanking a child is legal and does not constitute abuse. The ruling stated that "We are unwilling to establish a bright-line rule that the infliction of any pain constitutes either physical injury or physical abuse, because to do so would effectively prohibit all corporal punishment of children by their parents" and "it is clear to us that the Legislature did not intend to ban corporal punishment". The case involved a man who had spanked his 12-year-old son 36 times with a maple paddle and who was declared innocent by the Minnesota Supreme Court.[31]

There can be consequences for using corporal punishment that operate outside of the judicial system. These typically take the form of health department regulations, including Child Protective Services and rules on Mandated reporting. In the case of the latter, certain visible injuries along with reports by a child can trigger a mandatory report of child abuse to the local CPS or equivalent agency. Such agencies operate on definitions of child abuse provided by the state's health department (which are often very different from the exceptions provided in the criminal code) and have the power to investigate cases with their own agents, such as social workers. If the agency determines abuse has occurred, some actions can be taken immediately without the involvement of the police or the courts. These can include warning the parent, referring the parent to counseling, flagging the parent's name in the agency database [32] or even immediate removal of the child or children from the parent's home.[33] If corporal punishment causes the death of a child, the person who administered the punishment may be arrested and charged with murder. For example, Larry and Constance Slack were arrested in 2001 and later convicted of murdering their 12-year-old daughter, Laree Slack. And in February 2010, Kevin and Elizabeth Schatz were arrested and charged with murdering their seven-year-old daughter.[34]

Race, gender, and social class appear to be a significant factor in U.S. domestic corporal punishment. Black families are more in favor of it on average than white ones.[35] Boys are more likely than girls to be spanked at home,[36] and corporal punishment of boys tends to be more severe and more aggressive than that of girls[37] despite some research suggesting that corporal punishment is more counterproductive for boys than girls.[38] Middle-class parents tend to administer corporal punishment in greater numbers than their counterparts above them on the socioeconomic scale; however, lower-class parents tend to do so with greater frequency.[39]

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: 06.03.2005
: 12000
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: , 29 2012, 21:45:34     :

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Îêîëî 600 000 äåòåé â Ñîåäèí¸ííûõ Øòàòàõ æèâóò, íå èìåÿ ïîñòîÿííîé ñåìüè

ß ïðîäîëæàþ ðàçáèðàòüñÿ ñ ïðîáëåìîé óñûíîâëåíèÿ äåòåé.

Îêàçûâàåòñÿ â Ñîåäèí¸ííûõ Øòàòàõ äàâíî èä¸ò ïîëåìèêà ïî ïîâîäó óñûíîâëåíèÿ ( àäîïòàöèè) èíîñòðàííûõ äåòåé.
Åù¸ â 2008 ãîäó æóðíàë Businessweek ïðîâ¸ë äåáàòû ïîä íàçâàíèåì "Äåòè èç-çà ãðàíèöû âûòåñíÿþò àìåðèêàíñêèõ ñèðîò". Îáùàÿ òåíäåíöèÿ â ýòèõ äåáàòàõ ïàòðèîòè÷åñêàÿ. Ÿ âûðàçèëà íåêàÿ Ðèòà Ñîðîíåí èç "Äýéâ Òîìàñ àãåíñòâà ïî àäîïòàöèè" : "114 òûñÿ÷ äåòåé â Ñîåäèí¸ííûõ Øòàòàõ îæèäàþò àäîïòàöèè (...) îäíàêî ìû ïðåñòóïàåì ÷åðåç äåòåé íà íàøåé ñîáñòâåííîé çåìëå, âûèñêèâàÿ äåòåé çà ãðàíèöåé."

Ïðîòÿãèâàþ ðóêó ÷åðåç îêåàí àìåðèêàíñêîé Ðèòå, ïîòîìó ÷òî ýòî ïðàâèëüíàÿ è çäîðîâàÿ ïîñòàíîâêà âîïðîñà.
È íå ïðîòÿãèâàþ ðóêè îòå÷åñòâåííûì ëèáåðàëüíûì èñòåðèêàì, æåëþùèì ýøåëîíàìè îòñûëàòü ðîññèéñêèõ äåòåé çà ãðàíèöó.

À âîò ÷òî íàïèñàë ìíå èç øòàòà Íåâàäà, â ïðîøëóþ íî÷ü ìîé ñòàðûé ïðÿòåëü Ìàðê Ýéìñ :
"Ðåàëüíîå çëî âî âñåì ýòîì, ÿ äóìàþ, èíòåðíàöèîíàëüíûé áèçíåñ ïðîäàæè äåòåé, ñóòåí¸ðû, êîòîðûå ðóêîâîäÿò ýòèìè àãåíñòâàìè. Îíè íàìíîãî áîëåå ãíóñíû è êóäà áîëåå ìîãóùåñòâåííû ÷åì îòäåëüíûå àìåðèêàíöû òå, êòî "ïîêóïàåò" ýòèõ äåòåé. ß óâåðåí ÷òî íåêîòîðûå èç ýòèõ èíòåðíàöèîíàëüíûõ áèçíåñìåíîâ îò àäàïòàöèè äåëàþò ãîâíî-òîííû äåíåã è ïîêóïàþò çàêîíîäàòåëåé â ðàçëè÷íûõ ñòðàíàõ."

À âîò äëÿ ðàçíîîáðàçèÿ êàê îöåíèâàåò ñèòóàöèþ ñîâñåì îôèöèàëüíûé àìåðèêàíñêèé èñòî÷íèê CCAI, "Êîàëèöèÿ Êîíãðåññà ïî èíñòèòóòó óñûíîâëåíèÿ".
"Ôàêòû è ñòàòèñòèêà :
 Ñîåäèí¸ííûõ Øòàòàõ 423 000 äåòåé æèâóò áåç ïîñòîÿííîé ñåìüè, â ñèñòåìå "foster care", 115 òûñÿ÷ èç ýòèõ äåòåé ãîäÿòñÿ äëÿ àäàïòàöèè (óñûíîâëåíèÿ) ...."

À âîò îðãàíèçàöèÿ "Love our children : USA", åå ïðåññ-ðåëèç :
" ñëåäóþùóþ ìèíóòó ðåá¸íîê ñòàíåò æåðòâîé íàñèëèÿ èëè ïðåíåáðåæåíèÿ.
Êàæäûé ãîä ñâûøå ç ìèëëèîíîâ äåòåé ñòàíîâÿòñÿ æåðòâàìè íàñèëèÿ èëè ïðåíåáðåæåíèÿ, è ýòî òîëüêî òå ñëó÷àè, î êîòîðûõ åñòü ðàïîðòà.
Ðåàëüíîå êîëè÷åñòâî ñëó÷àåâ íàñèëèÿ íàä äåòüìè â òðè ðàçà âûøå.
Îêîëî 3,3 ìèëëèîíà ðàïîðòîâ î íàñèëèè, â êîòîðûå áûëè âîâëå÷åíû ñâûøå 6 ìèëëèîíîâ äåòåé îòìå÷åíû â 2009 ãîäó.
Êàæäûå äåñÿòü ñåêóíä íàñèëèå è ïðåíåáðåæåíèå äåòüìè ðàïîðòóåòñÿ.
Îêîëî ïÿòè äåòåé â ñðåäíåì ïîãèáàåò êàæäûé äåíü â ðåçóëüòàòå íàñèëèÿ è ïðíåáðåæåíèÿ.
Îêîëî 600 000 äåòåé æèâóò, íå èìåÿ ïîñòîÿííîé ñåìüè".

Ýòî áûëà ñóááîòíÿÿ ïðîïîâåäü, ïîñâÿùåííàÿ àìåðèêàíñêèì äåòÿì, ïðîïîâåäü â ñóááîòó 29 äåêàáðÿ 2012 ãîäà.
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A la guerre comme a la guerre èëè âòîðàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ Çàáóãîðíîâà
Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 29 2012, 21:56:09     :

http://www.ccainstitute.org/why-we-do-it-/facts-and-statistics.html
In the U.S. 423,000 children are living without permanent families
in the foster care system. 115,000 of these children are eligible for adoption, but nearly 40% of these children will wait over three years in foster care before being adopted.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foster_care
Foster care placement

Foster care is intended to be a short term solution until a permanent placement can be made:[3] Generally the first choice of foster parents is a family member who is a relative such as an aunt, uncle or grandparent. If no related family member is willing or able to adopt, the next preference is for the child to be adopted by the foster parents or by someone else involved in the child's life (such as a teacher or coach). This is to maintain continuity in the child's life. If neither above option are available, the child may be adopted by someone who is a stranger to the child.

If none of these options are viable the plan for the minor may be to enter OPPLA (Other Planned Permanent Living Arrangement). This option allows the child to stay in custody of the state and the child can stay placed in a foster home, with a relative or a long term care facility (for children with development disabilities, physical disabilities or mental disabilities).

547,415 children were in publicly supported foster care in the United States in September 2000.[4] In 2009, there were 423,773 children in foster care, a drop of about 20% in a decade.[5]

In 2009, there were about 123,000 children ready for adoptive families in the nation's foster care systems.[6] African American children represented 41% of children in foster care, white children represented 40% and Hispanic children represented 15% in 2000.[4]

Children may enter foster care via voluntary or involuntary means. Voluntary placement may occur when a biological parent or lawful guardian is unable to care for a child. Involuntary placement occurs when a child is removed from their biological parent or lawful guardian due to the risk or actual occurrence of physical or psychological harm. In the US, most children enter foster care due to neglect.[7] If a biological parent or lawful guardian is unwilling to care for a child, the child is deemed to be dependent and is placed under the care of the child protection agency. The policies regarding foster care as well as the criteria to be met in order to become a foster parent vary according to legal jurisdiction.

Especially egregious failures of child protective services often serve as a catalyst for increased removal of children from the homes of biological parents. An example is the brutal torture and murder of 17-month-old Peter Connelly, a British toddler who died in London Borough of Haringey, North London after suffering more than 50 severe injuries over an eight-month period, including eight broken ribs and a broken back. Throughout the period of time in which he was being tortured he was repeatedly seen by Haringey Children's services and NHS health professionals.[8] Haringey Children's services already failed ten years earlier in the case of Victoria Climbié.[9]In the time since his death in 2007 cases have reached a record rate in England surpassing 10,000 in the reporting year ending in March 2012.[10]
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A la guerre comme a la guerre èëè âòîðàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ Çàáóãîðíîâà
Princess Margaret



: 25.04.2008
: 1615
: France 69

: , 30 2012, 08:56:18     :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL_1bSiUQVs
Äåïóòàò Øëîññáåðã. Âûñòóïëåíèå, ñòàâøåå ñåíñàöèåé.
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Âñå, ÿ áîãàòà. Ïîêà, íåóäà÷íèêè, ÿ âàñ âñåãäà íåíàâèäåëà! Smile

î âèíàõ ïðîñòî è ñî âêóñîì
Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 30 2012, 12:28:30     :

Ñåíñàöèåé ÿâëÿåòñÿ òî ÷òî Çàêîí (Äèìû ßêîâëåâà), ïîõîæå, íèêòî íå ÷èòàë. À åñëè ÷èòàë - òî íå ïîíÿë. À åñëè ïîíÿë - òî íå òàê. Òàì î ñèðîòàõ òîëüêî îäíà ñòàòüÿ (4-àÿ), ê òîìó æå íåãëàâíàÿ.
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A la guerre comme a la guerre èëè âòîðàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ Çàáóãîðíîâà
Princess Margaret



: 25.04.2008
: 1615
: France 69

: , 30 2012, 12:34:18     :

http://ria.ru/politics/20121221/915806320.html
ïîëíûé òåêñò
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Âñå, ÿ áîãàòà. Ïîêà, íåóäà÷íèêè, ÿ âàñ âñåãäà íåíàâèäåëà! Smile

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