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: 22.01.2006
: 904

: , 30 2009, 20:55:52     :

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....Çàáóãîðíîâ ïðîïèùàë...

Íå ïî äåëó òû ïèùèøü, Òîâàðèù! È íîâîñòè íå òå âåùàåøü...
Òóò, ïîíèìàåøü, òàêîå òâîðèòñÿ!!... Ðàäèî, ÒÂ, âñå âîêðóã ãîâîðÿò òîëüêî î Íèêîëÿ è òîëüêî!


Íèêîëÿ Ñàðêîçè ïðîñèë Íåòàíèÿãó èçáàâèòüñÿ îò Àâèãäîðà Ëèáåðìàíà

Ñìûñë òàêîé: ÷òî ó âñåõ íà óìå, òî ó Ñàðêîçè íà ÿçûêå...
Èìõî, Áðàâî vàøåìó Ïðåçèäåíòó!...


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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 30 2009, 21:26:53     :

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....Çàáóãîðíîâ ïðîïèùàë...

Íå ïî äåëó òû ïèùèøü, Òîâàðèù! È íîâîñòè íå òå âåùàåøü...
Òóò, ïîíèìàåøü, òàêîå òâîðèòñÿ!!... Ðàäèî, ÒÂ, âñå âîêðóã ãîâîðÿò òîëüêî î Íèêîëÿ è òîëüêî!


Íèêîëÿ Ñàðêîçè ïðîñèë Íåòàíèÿãó èçáàâèòüñÿ îò Àâèãäîðà Ëèáåðìàíà

Ñìûñë òàêîé: ÷òî ó âñåõ íà óìå, òî ó Ñàðêîçè íà ÿçûêå...
Èìõî, Áðàâî vàøåìó Ïðåçèäåíòó!...


Äà ÿ ÷èòàë ýòó ñòàòüþ, à òàêæå âîò ýòó.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3738903,00.html
Êòî-òî, íàâåðíîå ïîäñëóøàë ïðèâàòíóþ áåñåäó Íåòàíèÿãó è Ñàðêîçè, èëè ìîæåò ýòî ïðîñòî äåçèíôîðìàöèÿ, ìîæåò ïðîâîêàöèÿ, ìîæåò åù¸ ÷òî. Íî äëÿ ïðåññû ýòî êîíå÷íî ëàêîìûé êóñî÷åê, ïåðâîñòàòåéíûé ñêàíäàë.

Íî è çäåñü ðóññêàÿ âåðñèÿ óìóäðèëàñü ïåðåâðàòü ñóòü äåëà. Íè÷åãî òàêîãî Ñàðêîçè íå ïðîñèë, çà÷åì åìó ýòî íàäî?

Áåñåäîâàëè îíè, íåáîñü, çà áîêàëîì âèíà, çàøëà ðå÷ü îá ìèíèñòðå èíîñòðàííûõ äåë, íó Ñàðêîçè è âûñêàçàëñÿ. Ìîæåò åìó ñ Öèïè ïðèÿòíåå îáùàòüñÿ - ñ æåíùèíîé, äà íàðîäíîì ÿçûêå.

À ñ Ëèáåðìàíà ÷òî â ýòîì ñìûñëå âçÿòü? Îí òîãî è ãëÿäè ÷òî-íèáóäü îòìî÷èò, òîãî è ãëÿäè ïîøë¸ò êàêîå-íèáóäü îôèöèàëüíîå ëèöî ê ÷¸ðòó, èëè çàâåä¸ò ðå÷ü îá îáìåíå òåððèòîðèÿìè, èëè î êàêîé-íèáóäü ïðèñÿãå íà âåðíîñòü ãîñóäàðñòâó.

Êîìó ýòî ñåé÷àñ èíòåðåñíî?
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Esti



: 22.01.2006
: 904

: , 1 2009, 15:12:16     :

[qóîòå="Çàáîóãîðíîâ"] Íàäåæíûé èñòî÷íèê ó òåáÿ, Âîæäü! Smile

Ñêàçàíî ýòî áûëî íà â ïðèâàòíîé áåñåäå, à â ïðèñóòñòâèè êó÷è ëþäåé. Áèáè âåëåë âñåì ìîë÷àòü, íî êòî-òî ñòóêíóë Ëèáåðìàíó è íà÷àëàñü çàâàðóøêà.

Ñåãîäíÿ î íåé óæå è íå ãîâîðÿò- íîâûé äåíü- íîâûå õëîïîòû...
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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 1 2009, 15:57:38     :

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[qóîòå="Çàáîóãîðíîâ"] Íàäåæíûé èñòî÷íèê ó òåáÿ, Âîæäü! Smile

Ñêàçàíî ýòî áûëî íà â ïðèâàòíîé áåñåäå, à â ïðèñóòñòâèè êó÷è ëþäåé. Áèáè âåëåë âñåì ìîë÷àòü, íî êòî-òî ñòóêíóë Ëèáåðìàíó è íà÷àëàñü çàâàðóøêà.

Ñåãîäíÿ î íåé óæå è íå ãîâîðÿò- íîâûé äåíü- íîâûå õëîïîòû...

Äà? Èíòåðåñíî... À ãäå ïðîõîäèëà áåñåäà?

Ýòî áûëî îôèöèàëüíîå ìåðîïðèÿòèå? Ïðèñóòñòâîâàëè òîëüêî èçðàèëüòÿíå? Èëè ôðàíöóçû òîæå?
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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
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: , 1 2009, 16:12:54     :

Haaretz ïèøåò ÷òî Ñàðêîçè àäðåñîâàë èëè ïåðåäàë ñâî¸ ìíåíèå î Ëèáåðìàíå Íåòàíèÿãó ïðèâàòíî....

Sarkozy is right - Lieberman must go
By Editorial

French President Nicolas Sarkozy's request of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that he replace Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman exposes a sad truth: At present Israel does not have a functioning foreign minister. The international community refuses to speak to a politician who is considered racist in the wake of the campaign conducted by his party, Yisrael Beiteinu, against Arab citizens during the recent Knesset election campaign. There is not and cannot be any other way to interpret Sarkozy's comparison between Lieberman and far-right French politician Jean-Marie Le Pen.

The angry reactions emerging from the Foreign Ministry after Sarkozy's comment was publicized on Israel's Channel 2 on Monday, to the effect that he had "interfered in Israel's internal affairs," are not relevant.

France did not impose an official boycott on Lieberman, nor did Sarkozy condemn him publicly - he only conveyed a message to Netanyahu in private. It is therefore difficult to maintain that Sarkozy behaved in an undiplomatic manner.

It is more important to focus on the main thing, which is the ongoing damage to Israel's diplomatic interests resulting from Lieberman's tenure in the Foreign Ministry. Sarkozy was not the first to express dissatisfaction with the fact that the leader of Yisrael Beiteinu was elevated to the top of Israel's diplomatic pyramid.

The Arab countries refuse to speak to Lieberman because of his threats and the rude things he said in the past about Egypt and its president.

When Lieberman was recently invited to Washington, the U.S. administration expressed its dissatisfaction with him by demonstrating a preferential attitude toward Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who was invited to meet with President Barack Obama. Lieberman's predecessors in the Foreign Ministry, Tzipi Livni (Kadima) and Silvan Shalom (Likud), were also invited to such meetings with the president during their visits to Washington. He was not.

Lieberman's bizarre attempt to offer an alternative diplomatic policy, whose main feature is a strengthening of strategic cooperation with Russia as a counterweight to the Obama administration, collapsed embarrassingly right from the start. Before inviting Lieberman to Moscow, the Russians sent their foreign minister to a meeting with Hamas politburo chief Khaled Meshal.

In light of Israel's complex international situation on the eve of the renewal of negotiations with the Palestinians and perhaps with Syria too, it needs all the support it can enlist from the international community. It is imperative to replace Lieberman with another foreign minister, who will benefit from an open door in the world's capitals.
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: 22.01.2006
: 904

: , 1 2009, 20:35:14     :

Àãà, "ïî ñåêðåòó âñåìó ñâåòó..."

Æàëü ÷òo, ìîå ìíåíèå íèêîãî íå èíòåðåñóåò, à çà òàêîå âûñêàçûâàíèå Ñàðêîçè ïðîñòî ðàñöåëîâàòü õî÷åòñÿ
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Ñàðêîçè, "äðóæåñêè" ïîñîâåòîâàë Íåòàíèÿãó: «Âû äîëæíû èçáàâèòüñÿ îò ýòîãî ÷åëîâåêà, âûãîíèòå åãî è âîçüìèòå Ëèâíè. Ñ íåé è Áàðàêîì Âû ìîæåòå äåëàòü èñòîðèþ. ß âñåãäà ïðèíèìàë ìèíèñòðîâ èíîñòðàííûõ äåë Èçðàèëÿ, ÿ î÷åíü ëþáèë ïðèíèìàòü Öèïè Ëèâíè çäåñü, â Åëèñåéñêîì äâîðöå, íî ñ ýòèì ÿ âñòðåòèòüñÿ íå ìîã».

http://www.7kanal.com/news.php3?id=264501
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Áåñåäîâàëè îíè, íåáîñü, çà áîêàëîì âèíà,

Ñàðêîçè, êàê èçâåñòíî, íå ïüåò.
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Âñå, ÿ áîãàòà. Ïîêà, íåóäà÷íèêè, ÿ âàñ âñåãäà íåíàâèäåëà! Smile

î âèíàõ ïðîñòî è ñî âêóñîì
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: 06.03.2005
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: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 1 2009, 23:09:40     :

Ýòîò Ñåäüìîé êàíàë âîëüíî èëè íåâîëüíî ïîäëèâàåò ìàñëà â îãîíü è îêàçûâàåò ìåäâåæüþ óñëóãó Èçðàèëþ.

 ñâî¸ì ñòðåìëåíèè çàùèòèòü Èçðàèëü îí òîëüêî Èçðàèëü ïîçîðèò.  ÌÈÄå, âèäèòå ëè, âñå âîçìóùåíû. Íó äà, íó äà, ïîëó÷àåòñÿ äîñòàòî÷íî òàêîé ìàëîñòè êàê ëè÷íîå íåïðèÿòèå Ëèáåðìàíà, ÷òîáû âåñü ÌÈÄ âñòàë íà óøè è çàêèïåë îò âîçìóùåíèÿ. Ñîçäà¸òñÿ âïå÷àòëåíèå ÷òî òàì â ÌÈÄå íåâðàñòåíèêè ñèäÿò, ïîäñëóøèâàþò, ÷óòü êòî ãäå ÷òî øåïíóë - ó íèõ ñðàçó êðèç, è îíè òàì ïðîñòî òàêè êèïÿò îò âîçìóùåíèÿ. Ïðè÷¸ì çíàåò êîøêà ÷ü¸ ìÿñî ñúåëà!

È ëîãèêà êàêàÿ óáîãàÿ: Àãà, çíà÷èò Ñàðêîçè íå ëþáèò Ëèáåðìàíà - òîãäà âîò âàì, ëÿãóøàòíèêè, ïîëó÷àéòå, íàøè ãðàæäàíå íå õîòÿò âèäåòü ôðàíöóçà íà ïîñòó ìèíèñòðà èíîñòðàííûõ äåë! Êàê áóäòî äåëî â íàöèîíàëüíîñòè... Î òîì ÷òî ìèíèñòðà íà òàêîé ïîñò íàçíà÷àþò ïî äåëîâûì êà÷åñòâàì îíè, âåðîÿòíî, è íå ñëûøàëè.

È ìñòèò Ñåäüìîé êàíàë òàê ìåëêî è ãàäåíüêî, ïîäáîðî÷êó âûñêàçûâàíèé ñäåëàë, òèïà äèñêðåäèòèðîâàòü Ñàðêîçè, îí äå èçâåñòíûé õàì, íåâåæëèâî îòçûâàëñÿ îá Îáàìå, Ìåðêåëü è äð.

Íó à ðàç òàê, ýòî âñ¸, åñòåñòâåííî, ñðàçó îáåëÿåò Ëèáåðìàíà, ïðèäà¸ò åìó âåñà è ââîäèò åãî â "õîðîøóþ êîìïàíèþ".

Íó è ìåòîäû ó ýòîãî Ñåäüìîãî êàíàëà! Àáàëäåòü!

http://www.7kanal.com/news.php3?id=264501
ÌÈÄ: Ñëîâà Ñàðêîçè íåòåðïèìû
06:43 30 Èþíÿ 2009

ÌÈÄ Èçðàèëÿ êèïèò îò âîçìóùåíèÿ â ñâÿçè ñ èíòèìíîé ïðîñüáîé ïðåçèäåíòà Ôðàíöèè Íèêîëÿ Ñàðêîçè âûãíàòü Ëèáåðìàíà è âçÿòü âìåñòî íåãî Öèïè Ëèâíè. «Ýòî ãðóáîå è ñêàíäàëüíîå âûñêàçûâàíèå ÷åëîâåêà, èçâåñòíîãî ñâîèìè ÿäîâèòûìè è íåäèïëîìàòè÷íûìè çàÿâëåíèÿìè», - ñêàçàë ðóêîâîäÿùèé ñîòðóäíèê ÌÈÄà.

Ëèáåðìàí î÷åíü íå ïîíðàâèëñÿ Ñàðêîçè, êîòîðûé "äðóæåñêè" ïîñîâåòîâàë Íåòàíèÿãó: «Âû äîëæíû èçáàâèòüñÿ îò ýòîãî ÷åëîâåêà, âûãîíèòå åãî è âîçüìèòå Ëèâíè. Ñ íåé è Áàðàêîì Âû ìîæåòå äåëàòü èñòîðèþ. ß âñåãäà ïðèíèìàë ìèíèñòðîâ èíîñòðàííûõ äåë Èçðàèëÿ, ÿ î÷åíü ëþáèë ïðèíèìàòü Öèïè Ëèâíè çäåñü, â Åëèñåéñêîì äâîðöå, íî ñ ýòèì ÿ âñòðåòèòüñÿ íå ìîã».

Íåòàíèÿãó âîçðàçèë: «Â ëè÷íûõ áåñåäàõ îí âîñïðèíèìàåòñÿ ïî-äðóãîìó». Íà ýòî Ñàðêîçè îòâåòèë: «Â ÷àñòíîé áåñåäå è Æàí-Ìàðè Ëå Ïåí ïðèÿòíûé ÷åëîâåê». Íåòàíèÿãó ñëàáî çàùèùàëñÿ: «Ëèáåðìàí íå Ëå Ïåí, òóò íå ìåñòî äëÿ ñðàâíåíèé». Ñàðêîçè ñîãëàñèëñÿ, ÷òî ñðàâíåíèÿ òóò íåóìåñòíû.

 ðóêîâîäñòâå ÌÈÄà âîçìóùåíû: «Ñëîâà ïðåçèäåíòà Ôðàíöèè ïðîòèâ ìèíèñòðà èíîñòðàííûõ äåë Ëèáåðìàíà, åñëè îíè, äåéñòâèòåëüíî, áûëè ñêàçàíû, ÿâëÿþòñÿ áåçîòâåòñòâåííîé, ÿäîâèòîé âûõîäêîé. Ýòî âìåøàòåëüñòâî â äåìîêðàòè÷åñêèå ïðîöåññû äðóãîãî ãîñóäàðñòâà. Ýòî íåòåðïèìûå ñëîâà. Ìû íå ñîáèðàåìñÿ âðó÷àòü ôðàíöóçàì íîòó ïðîòåñòà. Ìû ñîáèðàåìñÿ èõ ïðîñòî èãíîðèðîâàòü. ß óâåðåí, ÷òî åñëè ãðàæäàí Èçðàèëÿ ñïðîñÿò, êîãî îíè õîòÿò âèäåòü íà ïîñòó ìèíèñòðà èíîñòðàííûõ äåë ñâîåé ñòðàíû, òî ýòî íå áóäóò ôðàíöóçû».

 ÌÈÄå ñäåëàëè ïîäáîðêó âûñêàçûâàíèé ïðåçèäåíòà Ñàðêîçè â àäðåñ íå òîëüêî Àâèãäîðà Ëèáåðìàíà, íî è äðóãèõ ïîëèòè÷åñêèõ äåÿòåëåé, â òîì ÷èñëå è ïðåçèäåíòà ÑØÀ Îáàìû. Ýòè âûñêàçûâàíèÿ áûëè ñäåëàíû âî âðåìÿ íåôîðìàëüíûõ îáåäîâ, â ïðèñóòñòâèè 24-õ ÷åëîâåê. Ñàðêîçè, â ÷àñòíîñòè, ñêàçàë, ÷òî Îáàìà «íå îòâå÷àåò ñòàíäàðòàì ïðèíÿòèÿ ðåøåíèé».

Ïðàâäà, êàê ïèøåò «Ëèáåðàñüîí», Ñàðêîçè ïîõâàëèë Îáàìó çà õàðèçìó è âûñîêèé óì, íî ñêàçàë. ÷òî «ïî ðàçëè÷íûì âîïðîñàì ó ïðåçèäåíòà ÑØÀ íåò ïîçèöèè». Î ïðåìüåð-ìèíèñòðå Èñïàíèè Õîñå Ëóèñå Ñàïàòåðî îí ñêàçàë: «Ýòî íå î÷åíü èíòåëëèãåíòíûé ÷åëîâåê». Åëèñåéñêèé äâîðåö îòðèöàåò, ÷òî Ñàðêîçè òàê îòîçâàëñÿ î Ñàïàòåðî, íî äðóãèå âûñêàçûâàíèÿ îòðèöàòü íå ñòàë.

 ÌÈÄå îòìåòèëè, ÷òî â ïðîøëîì Ñàðêîçè î÷åíü ñèëüíî êðèòèêîâàë êàíöëåðà Ãåðìàíèè Àíãåëó Ìåðêåëü: «Ìû íàõîäèìñÿ â î÷åíü õîðîøåé êîìïàíèè, êîãäà ïðåçèäåíò Ôðàíöèè äåëàåò íàïàäêè íà èçðàèëüñêîãî ìèíèñòðà èíîñòðàííûõ äåë Àâèãäîðà Ëèáåðìàíà, ïîýòîìó ìû ïðîñòî íå áóäåì îáðàùàòü âíèìàíèÿ íà åãî ñëîâà», - ñêàçàë âûñîêîïîñòàâëåííûé ñîòðóäíèê ÌÈÄà.

Èç êàíöåëÿðèè ïðåìüåð-ìèíèñòðà Íåòàíèÿãó ïðèøåë ñëåäóþùèé îòâåò: «Ïðåìüåð-ìèíèñòð íå êîììåíòèðóåò ñîäåðæàíèå ïåðåãîâîðîâ, âìåñòå ñ òåì ïðåìüåð-ìèíèñòð Íåòàíèÿãó î÷åíü âûñîêî öåíèò ìèíèñòðà èíîñòðàííûõ äåë».
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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 6 2009, 22:47:24     :

À Ëèáåðìàí ïîâ¸ë ñåáÿ ãëóïî, çàÿâèë ÷òî ýòî Ñàðêîçè òàê "îãîâîðèëñÿ". Íàø¸ë ÷òî ñêàçàòü, îäíàêî! Îãîâîðèòñÿ ìîæíî â îäíîì ñëîâå, íó èëè â ñëîâîñî÷åòàíèè, íî íå â äèàëîãå. Ïðè÷¸ì äèàëîã áûë âïîëíå ñâÿçíûé (åñëè áûë), ñîçíàòåëüíûé è èíèöèèðîâàí ñàìèì Ñàðêîçè. Íè ôèãà ñåáå îí îãîâîðèëñÿ!

Ëèáåðìàí, òàêèì îáðàçîì, ïðèçíàë ÷òî òàêîé äèàëîã áûë (÷òî, êñòàòè, íå ïðèçíàë Ñàðêîçè, â ñìûñëå îí âîîáùå íå äàë íèêàêèõ êîììåíòàðèåâ ïî äàííîìó ïîâîäó) è ÷òî Ñàðêîçè òàê íå äóìàåò, ïîñêîëüêó îãîâîðèëñÿ. Íó êàê æå, êàê æå! Ó Ëèáåðìàíà ïðîñòî â ãîëîâå íå óêëàäûâàåòñÿ, êàê ýòî, î òàêîì òîëñòîì è êðàñèâîì Ëèáåðìàíå, êòî-òî ìîæåò ïîäóìàòü ïëîõî! Íåò-íåò, Ñàðêîçè ïðîñòî îãîâîðèëñÿ...

http://www.newsru.co.il/israel/06jul2009/lieber503.html
Àâèãäîð Ëèáåðìàí ñ÷åë íåëåñòíîå çàìå÷àíèå Íèêîëÿ Ñàðêîçè "îãîâîðêîé"
âðåìÿ ïóáëèêàöèè: 6 èþëÿ 2009 ã., 20:33

Àâèãäîð Ëèáåðìàí ñ÷åë íåëåñòíîå çàìå÷àíèå Íèêîëÿ Ñàðêîçè "îãîâîðêîé"
Ìèíèñòð èíîñòðàííûõ äåë Èçðàèëÿ Àâèãäîð Ëèáåðìàí çàÿâèë â ïîíåäåëüíèê, 6 èþëÿ, ÷òî âûñêàçàííîå ïðåçèäåíòîì Ôðàíöèè Íèêîëÿ Ñàðêîçè ãëàâå ïðàâèòåëüñòâà Èçðàèëÿ Áèíüÿìèíó Íåòàíèÿãó ïðåäëîæåíèå óáðàòü Ëèáåðìàíà èç ïðàâèòåëüñòâà áûëî "îãîâîðêîé", è äîáàâèë, ÷òî îí íå èñïûòûâàåò êàêîãî-ëèáî âîëíåíèÿ ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó.

"Ëþäè ñêëîííû ãîâîðèòü íåíóæíûå âåùè, â òîì ÷èñëå è ÿ ñàì, – îáúÿñíèë Àâèãäîð Ëèáåðìàí æóðíàëèñòàì â Êíåññåòå. – ß îòíîøóñü ê ýòîìó, êàê ê äîñàäíîé îãîâîðêå, è îíà ìåíÿ íå âîëíóåò". Ðàíåå Àâèãäîð Ëèáåðìàí îáúÿñíèë ñâîå ðåøåíèå óñòðàíèòüñÿ îò ïåðåãîâîðîâ ñ àìåðèêàíñêèì ðóêîâîäñòâîì æåëàíèåì èçáåæàòü êîíôëèêòà èíòåðåñîâ: îí ñîçäàâàë ïîñåëåíèÿ è ïðîæèâàåò â Íîêäèì, à ïðîáëåìà ïîñåëåíèé ÿâëÿåòñÿ îñíîâîé ðàçíîãëàñèé ìåæäó ïîçèöèÿìè Èçðàèëÿ è ÑØÀ.
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A la guerre comme a la guerre èëè âòîðàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ Çàáóãîðíîâà
Thais



: 10.03.2005
: 2238
: Kaliningrad-Petersburg-Paris

: , 7 2009, 09:03:39     :

Íó ÷òî æ, íè÷òî ÷åëîâå÷åñêîå, êàê ãðèòñÿ...
À ÿ áû ïîñîâåòîâàëà ãîñïîäèíó Ëèáåðìàíó îòâåòèòü ãðóáèÿíó Ñàðêîçè â ñòèëå äèïëîìàòèè î.Ôåäîðà: "Ñàì äóðàê!" Laughing
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Âîò òàê ýòî ïðîèñõîäèò. Âàì õî÷åòñÿ ñ êåì-òî ïîäðóæèòüñÿ. Ðàçãîâàðèâàòü âàì íåîõîòà, âñòðå÷àòüñÿ ëåíü, çâîíèòü íåêîãäà, òóñîâàòüñÿ íàäîåëî, óæèíàòü òÿæåëî, ïðèõîäèòü ñî ñâîåé äèåòîé - íåýòè÷íî, ñïàòü è ëåæàòü ñ âàìè â øèðîêîì ñìûñëå íîâûå äðóçüÿ îòêàçûâàþòñÿ, ìîë÷àòü ñ âàìè èì íå î ÷åì.  îáùåì, äðóæèòü íàäî áûëî ðàíüøå. (Ì. Æâàíåöêèé)
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: 22.01.2006
: 904

: , 7 2009, 13:31:47     :

Thais ():
Íó ÷òî æ, íè÷òî ÷åëîâå÷åñêîå, êàê ãðèòñÿ...
À ÿ áû ïîñîâåòîâàëà ãîñïîäèíó Ëèáåðìàíó îòâåòèòü ãðóáèÿíó Ñàðêîçè â ñòèëå äèïëîìàòèè î.Ôåäîðà: "Ñàì äóðàê!" Laughing
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Íàøå íûíåøíåå ïðàâèòåëüñòâî óäèâëÿåò äåíü îòî äíÿ. Êàçàëîñü áû, ëåáåäü, ðàê èñæóêà, àí íåò! Âñå äðóã çà äðóãà ãîðîé: Áèáè çà Ëèáåðìàíà, Ëèáåðìàí çà Áàðàêà è çà Ïåðåöà, Ïåðåö çà Áèáè è Ëèáåðìàíà.... Ñîçäàåòñÿ âïå÷àòëåíèå, ÷òî îíî ïðèøëî íàäîëãî. Âîîáùåì îáíàäåæèâàåò.
Ñåãîäíÿ ñëóøàëà èíòåðâüþ ñ Ëèáåðìàíîì ïî ðàäèî - ïðîñòî äðóãîé ÷åëîâåê! Âçâåøàííûé, óâåðåííûé, ÷åòêèé, çíàéóùèé. Ó÷èòñÿ ÷åëîâåê, â òîì ÷èñëå è íà ñîáñòâåííûõ îøèáêàõ.
Íà âîïðîñ î âûñêàçûâàíèè Ñàðêîçè îòâåòèë òèïà ñ êåì íå áûâàåò! È ÿ áûâàåò âñÿêîå ìîãó âûäàòü, ÷òî èç òîãî? Ãëàâíîå íàøå îáùåå äåëî, à íå ëè÷íîñíòíûå îòíîøåíèÿ...
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Òempora mutantur et nos mutamur in illis
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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
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: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 13 2009, 16:35:54     :

×åì äàëüøå â ëåñ - òåì òîëùå ïàðòèçàíû! Ëèáåðìàí ñîâñåì îáåçóìåë! Îí, ïîõîæå, íà ñàìîì äåëå íå ïîíèìàåò ÷òî ñâîèìè ñëîâàìè îñêîðáëÿåò îôèöèàëüíîãî ïðåäñòàâèòåëÿ Åâðîñîþçà. Ñîëàíà - îôèöèàëüíîå ëèöî è äåéñòâóåò íå â ñâîèõ ñîáñòâåííûõ èíòåðåñàõ, à â èíòåðåñàõ Åâðîñîþçà ïðåäñòàâèòåëåì êîòîðîãî îí ÿâëÿåòñÿ. À Ëèáåðìàí ýòî ïðåäñòàâèë êàê åñëè áû Ñîëàíà ïðåñëåäîâàë ñâîé ëè÷íûé èíòåðåñ ñòðàäàÿ ê òîìó æå ìàíèåé âåëè÷èÿ...


http://www.newsru.co.il/israel/13jul2009/lib_int_102.html#1
Äîïîëíèòåëüíûé êîììåíòàðèé À.Ëèáåðìàíà â èíòåðâüþ ðàäèîñòàíöèè "Ðýêà"

Ïðåññ-ñëóæáà ÍÄÈ ïðåäîñòàâèëà ðåäàêöèè NEWSru.co.il òåêñò èíòåðâüþ Àâèãäîðà Ëèáåðìàíà ðóññêîÿçû÷íîé ðàäèîñòàíöèè "Ðýêà", êîòîðîå ñîñòîÿëîñü âñêîðå ïîñëå èíòåðâüþ "Ðåùåò Áýò".  áåñåäå ñ æóðíàëèñòêîé Íàòàëüåé Êàíåâñêîé ãëàâà ÌÈÄ Èçðàèëÿ ïîäòâåðäèë ñâîþ ïîçèöèþ, îáîçíà÷åííóþ â èíòåðâüþ ßðîíó Äåêåëþ, è ñäåëàë íåñêîëüêî äîïîëíèòåëüíûõ çàÿâëåíèé.

Òàê, ïî ïîâîäó çàÿâëåíèÿ Õàâüåðà Ñîëàíû îí ñêàçàë, ÷òî ðåàãèðóåò íà ñëîâà îòâåòñòâåííîãî çà âíåøíþþ ïîëèòèêó ÅÑ "íå ñòîëüêî íåãàòèâíî, ñêîëüêî ñ ïîíèìàíèåì òîãî, êàê, åñòåñòâåííî, ëþäè âåäóò ñåáÿ ïåðåä óõîäîì íà ïåíñèþ". "Ñîëàíà â êîíöå ãîäà çàêàí÷èâàåò ñâîþ äîëãóþ äåÿòåëüíîñòü íà åâðîïåéñêîé ïîëèòè÷åñêîé àðåíå. Îí äåëàåò ãðîìêèå çàÿâëåíèÿ, ïûòàåòñÿ ÷òî-òî ïîñëå ñåáÿ îñòàâèòü, ïîýòîìó âîñïðèíèìàòü ñëèøêîì ñåðüåçíî ïîñëåäíèå äåêëàðàöèè Ñîëàíû íå ñòîèëî áû", – ñ÷èòàåò Ëèáåðìàí.

"Íàì ñòîèò äîæäàòüñÿ íàçíà÷åíèÿ íîâîãî êîìèññàðà ïî âíåøíåé ïîëèòèêå Åâðîïåéñêîãî Ñîþçà.  íîâîì âàðèàíòå áóäóò îáúåäèíåíû äâå ôóíêöèè: è òî, ÷òî ñåãîäíÿ âûïîëíÿåò Áåíèòà Ôåððåðà Âàðíåð êàê ïðåäñòàâèòåëüíèöà êîìèññàðà ÅÑ ïî äåëàì áåæåíöåâ è èíîñòðàííîé ïîìîùè è ïîñò Õàâüåðà Ñîëàíû, êîìèññàðà ïî âíåøíåé ïîëèòèêå. Ýòî áóäåò î÷åíü îòâåòñòâåííàÿ äîëæíîñòü, ìîùíûé ðû÷àã. Íàäî äîæäàòüñÿ íîâîãî íàçíà÷åíèÿ è íà÷àòü ðàáîòàòü", – çàÿâèë ãëàâà ÌÈÄà Èçðàèëÿ.

" ëþáîì ñëó÷àå, íàø îïûò ïîêàçûâàåò, ÷òî äîñòè÷ü ìèðíîãî ñîãëàøåíèÿ ìîæíî òîëüêî ïóòåì ïðÿìûõ ïåðåãîâîðîâ ìåæäó îáåèìè ñòîðîíàìè. Òàê áûëî â ñëó÷àÿõ ñ Åãèïòîì è Èîðäàíèåé. Ëþáàÿ ïîïûòêà íàâÿçàòü ìèð çàðàíåå îáðå÷åíà. Ìèð íóæíî âûñòðàèâàòü, ñîçäàâàòü íåîáõîäèìûå óñëîâèÿ äëÿ íåãî", – ïîâòîðèë Ëèáåðìàí ñâîè ñëîâà, çâó÷àâøèå íåçàäîëãî äî òîãî íà èâðèòå, â èíòåðâüþ "Ðåøåò Áýò".

 îòâåò íà ïðîñüáó äàòü îáùóþ îöåíêó ðîëè ÅÑ â áëèæíåâîñòî÷í7ûõ ïðîöåññàõ Àâèãäîð Ëèáåðìàí ñêàçàë: "ÅÑ êàê áû ñàìîóñòðàíèëñÿ, îí çàÿâèë, ÷òî ïîëíîñòüþ ïîääåðæèâàåò àìåðèêàíñêóþ ëèíèþ, íå âûõîäÿ ñî ñâîèìè èíèöèàòèâàìè. Îí èãðàåò âñïîìîãàòåëüíóþ ðîëü è ñòàðàåòñÿ íàõîäèòüñÿ â ôàðâàòåðå âíåøíåïîëèòè÷åñêîé ëèíèè ÑØÀ. Íî íóæíî ïîíÿòü, ÷òî âûáîðû â Åâðîïåéñêèé ïàðëàìåíò ïðîøëè ñîâñåì íåäàâíî, ñåé÷àñ æäóò âûáîðîâ âíóòðè Ãåðìàíèè, ×åõèè, è ïîñëå íèõ íîâûé ïàðëàìåíò ÅÑ çàðàáîòàåò â íîâîì ñîñòàâå. Äî êîíöà ãîäà ñåðüåçíûõ èçìåíåíèé îæèäàòü íå ñëåäóåò. Âìåñòå ñ òåì, ìíå ÿñíî, ÷òî íàì íóæíî óêðåïëÿòü ñâÿçè ñ íàøèìè ñîþçíèêàìè â ñòðàíàõ Öåíòðàëüíîé è Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïû. Ó ïîñëåäíèõ ñåé÷àñ ñâåæèé âçãëÿä, îíè ïðèñîåäèíèëèñü ê ÅÑ íåäàâíî. Óñèëèÿ íàøåãî ÌÈÄà áóäóò íàïðàâëåíû â èõ ñòîðîíó, ïîìíÿ, ÷òî ó êàæäîé èç 27 ñòðàí ÅÑ îäèí ãîëîñ. Ìû ñåé÷àñ çàâåðøàåì ðàáîòó íàä áîëüøèì, îñíîâàòåëüíûì äîêóìåíòîì, êîòîðûé ïåðåñìàòðèâàåò ðàáîòó âíåøíåïîëèòè÷åñêîãî âåäîìñòâà, è ìû â áëèæàéøèé ìåñÿö íà÷íåì ðåàëèçîâûâàòü ýòè íîâûå èäåè".
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A la guerre comme a la guerre èëè âòîðàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ Çàáóãîðíîâà
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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
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: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 22 2009, 23:11:00     :

Ãàäîñòü êàêàÿ!  êà÷åñòâå îòâåòà íà ïðèçûâ ìèðîâîãî ñîîáùåñòâà çàìîðîçèòü ñòðîèòåëüñòâî â ïîñåëåíèÿõ Ëèáåðìàí ïðèäóìàë äåìîíñòðèðîâàòü ôîòîãðàôèþ ñäåëàíóþ â Áåðëèíå, â 1941, ãäå èåðóñàëèìñêèé ìóôòèé èçîáðàæ¸í âìåñòå ñ Ãèòëåðîì. Òî åñòü, ýòî, òèïà, îòâåò Èçðàèëÿ íà êðèòèêó. Êàêàÿ ñâÿçü ñ ïîñåëåíèÿìè îäíàêî? Ãëóïàÿ àêöèÿ, ýòî ëèøü íàñòðîèò âñåõ ïðîòèâ Èçðàèëÿ.....


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/22/AR2009072202500.html
Israel circulates Hitler photo to battle critics

By Allyn Fisher-Ilan
Reuters
Wednesday, July 22, 2009; 4:10 PM

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel has ordered its diplomats to use an old photograph of a former Palestinian religious leader meeting Adolf Hitler to counter world criticism of a Jewish building plan for East Jerusalem.

Israeli officials said on Wednesday Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman told Israeli ambassadors to circulate the 1941 shot in Berlin of the Nazi leader seated next to Haj Amin al-Husseini, the late mufti or top Muslim religious leader in Jerusalem.

One official said Lieberman, an ultranationalist, hoped the photo would "embarrass" Western countries into ceasing to demand that Israel halt the project on land owned by the mufti's family in a predominantly Arab neighborhood in East Jerusalem.

Israel captured East Jerusalem in 1967, annexing it as part of its internationally unrecognized claim to Jerusalem as its capital.
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Some diplomats opposed Lieberman's move, arguing it could earn Israel stiffer world criticism for seeming to sidestep the wider conflict it faces with the Palestinians who want East Jerusalem as capital of a future state, another official said.

Asked why Lieberman issued the order, a spokesman said: "because it's important for the world to know the facts" and would not elaborate.

The United States and Europe this week protested the plan by private Israeli developers to build 20 apartments on the land which Israel says was bought by an American-Jewish millionaire as well as Israel's threats to demolish Palestinian homes that could leave thousands homeless.

The controversy has complicated an Israeli rift with the U.S. over its refusal to meet President Barack Obama's demands to halt Jewish settlement building throughout the West Bank so that stalled peace talks may resume.

About half a million Israelis live in the settlements built in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, areas that are home to some three million Palestinians.

An official in Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's government accused Lieberman of "political bankruptcy" in ordering the distribution of the Husseini-Hitler photograph.

"It's an old story that has its own circumstances and doesn't apply to the present," Adnan al-Husseini, the Palestinian Authority-appointed governor of Jerusalem, and a relative of the late mufti, told Reuters.

Israel's Yad Vashem memorial to the six million Jews killed in the Holocaust said Husseini supported Nazi Germany to try to win backing for Arab nationalistic goals and that he lobbied for the extermination of Jews in North Africa and Palestine.

(Additional reporting by Mohammed Assadi in Ramallah)
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A la guerre comme a la guerre èëè âòîðàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ Çàáóãîðíîâà
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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 23 2009, 23:03:16     :

Äà-à, ãëóïîñòü èìååò ñâîè ïðåèìóùåñòâà. Íå íàäî âíèêàòü â ñóòü äåëà, ïîíèìàòü ñìûñë ñêàçàííîãî, ðàçìûøëÿòü....

Íàçâàë Îáàìà Èçðàèëü åâðåéñêèì ãîñóäàðñòâîì: Óðà, ãðàæäàíå! Ýòî æå ïîáåäà!

Íåâäîì¸ê Ëèáåðìàíó, ÷òî Øòàòû è ðàíüøå ýòî ïðèçíàâàëè è ÷òî ïðèçûâ áûë íàïðàâëåí âîâñå íå ê Îáàìå, è íå ê Øòàòàì...

Íåâäîì¸ê Ëèáåðìàíó ÷òî â òîé æå ôðàçå Îáàìà ñêàçàë ÷òî åãî öåëü (êðîìå îáåñïå÷åíèÿ áåçîïàñíîñòè åâðåéñêîãî ãîñóäàðñòâà) åñòü ñîçäàíèå íåçàâèñèìîãî Ïàëåñòèíñêîãî ãîñóäàðñòâà ÷òî ïîëîæèò êîíåö îêêóïàöèè íà÷àâøåéñÿ â 1967.

"The goal is clear: two states living side by side in peace and security - a Jewish State of Israel, with true security for all Israelis; and a viable, independent Palestinian state with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967, and realizes the potential of the Palestinian people," Obama told the UN.

Íåâäîì¸ê Ëèáåðìàíó ÷òî íàäî áû ïîðàçìûñëèòü, à ÷òî çíà÷èò "êîíåö îêêóïàöèè"? Êòî åñòü îêêóïàíò? ×òî îêêóïèðîâàëè? Êàê èìåííî å¸ ïðåêðàòèòü? Êàê îáåñïå÷èòü öåëîñòíîñòü òåððèòîðèè Ïàëåñòèíñêîãî ãîñóäàðñòâà? È êàêàÿ ñâÿçü ñ òðåáîâàíèåì çàìîðîçèòü ïîñåëåíèÿ?

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1116481.html
Lieberman to Haaretz: Israel pleased by Obama mention of 'Jewish state'
By Natasha Mozgovaya, Haaretz Correspondent, and Haaretz Service
Tags: Israel News

Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman praised U.S. President Barack Obama's remarks to the United Nations General Assembly in New York on Wednesday.

During his first ever speech at the world body's headquarters in New York, Obama called on Wednesday for the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian peace talks "without preconditions."

"The goal is clear: two states living side by side in peace and security - a Jewish State of Israel, with true security for all Israelis; and a viable, independent Palestinian state with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967, and realizes the potential of the Palestinian people," Obama told the UN.
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"Obama is always trying to maintain a balance," Lieberman told Haaretz. "For us, the positive aspect is that he said that Israel is a Jewish state."

"He also spoke very clearly about Iran, and we see his speech in a very positive light," the foreign minister said. "The three-way meeting [between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, and Obama on Tuesday] had a very positive effect because the main thing is that we showed that we do not intend to compromise on our positions and that we will need to conduct a dialogue without preconditions."

Senior officials in the Israeli delegation to the UN say that it would be realistic to expect peace negotiations with the Palestinians to resume within five weeks. Israeli officials said no specifics of any future peace deal were discussed during the tripartite summit.

"The president of the United States has the toughest job in the world," Lieberman said. "One can empathize with his position. And he has problems that are far more serious than the Israeli-Palestinian conflict ? North Korea, Afghanistan, Pakistan."

"Whoever saw [Libyan ruler Muammar] Gadhafi's appearance at the UN today understands that clear-thinking logic is not the strong suit of leaders in the Middle East," Lieberman said, citing Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's statements denying the Holocaust.

"We cannot expect a speech by an American president to resemble that of the leader of the Yisrael Beiteinu party or even the Labor Party," Lieberman said.

Israel and the U.S. have been trying to reach a compromise over the contentious issue of West Bank settlement construction. Washington has demanded a complete halt to settlement construction while Israel has said it is willing to consider a temporary hiatus.

Netanyahu said on Wednesday he welcomed Obama's call to resume negotiations with the Palestinians "without preconditions."

"I very much value it," Netanyahu told Israel's Channel 2 television in an interview broadcast from New York, responding to Obama's speech to the United Nations General Assembly.

"The president said let's come and resume the peace process without preconditions. As you know I have been saying that for nearly six months. I was happy," Netanyahu said.

Netanyahu said Wednesday that the U.S. demand for a complete settlement freeze in the West Bank was "costing us a great deal of time."

Netanyahu, who has rebuffed the Obama administration's repeated calls for a complete freeze to activity in West Bank settlements, told CNN's Wolf Blitzer:

"I think that raising this condition, something that hasn't happened in 15years of Israeli-Palestinian dialogue - nobody put this precondition - this is just costing us a great deal of time."

Netanyahu also said he saw Obama's main message, also from a three-way summit on Tuesday with Abbas, as "let's start moving, and stop putting obstacles, as unfortunately the Palestinians have done."

Abbas has demanded Israel freeze Jewish settlement construction in occupied land before peace talks, stalled since late last year, can resume.

Palestinians were disappointed by Obama's roll-back to urging "restraint" in settlement activity in his talks with Middle East leaders on Tuesday, rather than the outright freeze he had earlier sought.

"The U.S. administration has retreated from its position at the expense of peace," Mohammed Dahlan, a senior spokesman and former security chief for Abbas's Fatah party told Reuters.

Netanyahu said he also welcomed what he called Obama's "unequivocal support for Israel as the nation of the Jewish people" in his UN speech.

Abbas has rejected Netanyahu's call to recognise Israel as the nation of the Jewish people, a demand Palestinians fear could weaken their demand for Palestinian refugees to return to their former towns and villages in what is now Israel.
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Egypt FM: I refuse to be in the same room as Lieberman
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent

Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit on Thursday warned he would not attend a meeting of foreign ministers representing Mediterranean Union if Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman attends.

Aboul Gheit told his French counterpart Bernard Kouchner that Egypt would not attend the session if Lieberman is present.

According to sources involved in the preparations for the summit, Aboul Gheit said he is unwilling to compromise on his stance.

"Forget it. I will not attend if Lieberman is there," Aboul Gheit said.
"I refuse to sit at the same table with him, or even be in the same room as him," he added.

The Egyptian ultimatum could lead to the cancellation of the meeting.

Israeli foreign ministry officials have sent requests to several union countries, including France, to pressure Egypt into retracting Aboul Gheit's public objection.

"Tell Aboul Gheit that junior Egyptian officials have previously met with Foreign Minister Lieberman, so there is no reason why he cannot be with him in the same room," the officials said.

The French have made attempts to convince the Egyptian foreign minister to retract his carpet ban on Lieberman but have not yet succeeded.

The recent diplomatic tensions between Israel and Turkey could also pose another obstacle, the proposed venue for the summit is in Istanbul.

The Mediterranean Union was established in 2008 by French President Nicolas Sarkozy to promote joint financial ventures, scientific and cultural projects between the countries along the Mediterranean shores.
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