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Вызвать турецкого посла, посадить его на низкую кушетку, втроём усестся напротив него на высоких стульях, не улыбаться и флага турецкого не показывать.
A Turkish official denounced Israel's top two diplomats on Tuesday as "adolescent youths" for deliberately seating Ankara's envoy on a lower chair during than that of Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon during a consultation on Monday.
Israeli officials were angered by statements made Monday by Turkish Prime Minister Reccep Tayip Erdogan, who accused Jerusalem of using "disproportionate power ... while refusing to abide by UN resolutions" relating to its policy toward the Palestinians.
In response, Ayalon summoned the Turkish ambassador to Israel, Ahmet Oguz Celikkol, for consultations.
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During the meeting, Celikkol was seated in a low sofa, and facing him, in higher chairs, were Ayalon and two other officials - an arrangement carried out on the orders of Ayalon's superior, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman.
A photo-op was held at the start of the meeting, during which Ayalon told the photographers in Hebrew: "Pay attention that he is sitting in a
lower chair and we are in the higher ones, that there is only an Israeli flag on the table and that we are not smiling."
Celikkol's associates told Army Radio on Tuesday, that the meeting with Ayalon was the most shameful display he had seen in 35 years as a diplomat.
According to the associates, Celikkol had no idea what the topic of conversation was to be when first seated. When the cameras left the room, the sources said, the meeting was normal and professional.
"Had the ambassador understood Ayalon's intentions, which were only expressed in Hebrew, he would have responded in kind," the source told Army Radio.
Celikkol told Army Radio that the episode was the most shameful experience of his 35-year career.
Israel's Foreign Ministry said on Tuesday that Ayalon did not intend to humiliate Celikkol by seating him in a lower chair without flag representation during their meeting.
Celikkol was called in regarding a recent Turkish television drama depicting actors dressed as Shin Bet officers who kidnap babies.
In response to the incident, the Turkish Foreign Ministry on Tuesday summoned Israeli Ambassador Gaby Levy for clarification.
"It would be worthwhile for Israel to know its boundaries and to not dare cross them," a Turkish official said.
He added that Ankara knows to differentiate between the various constituent elements of the Israeli government, and that it would prefer to deal only with ministers and leaders who assume a more moderate line.
Ankara on Tuesday rejected Israel's criticism of Turkey's past while accusing Lieberman and Ayalon of staging the incident to enhance their domestic political standing.
"Turkey has always been a friend to Jews," the Turkish Foreign Ministry said in a statement.
"Deep-rooted relations between Turks and Jews that precede the establishment of the Israeli state and the general structure of our relations give us the responsibility to make such warnings and criticism," the statement read.
"We expect an explanation and apologies from Israeli authorities for the attitude against our Tel Aviv ambassador Oguz Celikkol, and the way this attitude was reflected," the Turkish foreign ministry said in a statement.
"We call on the Israeli Foreign Ministry, whose behavior and attitude towards our Tel Aviv ambassador did not comply with diplomacy, to obey courtesy rules," it said.
The Foreign Ministry stressed that it had summoned the envoy and ordered the seating arrangment to make clear that it would respond to any insult made by the Turkish leadership.
Just three months ago, a similar diplomatic instance occurred between the two countries after Turkey aired the controversial television drama Ayrilik ("Separation") which featured actors dressed as Israeli soldiers killing Palestinian children.
Israeli officials: Liberman wants to keep tense ties with Turkey
Meanwhile, ministry sources said Monday that Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman was trying to stop Defense Minister Ehud Barak from visiting to Turkey next week, in order to keep up the recent tensions between the two allied countries.
Barak was scheduled to leave for Turkey on Sunday to meet with his counterpart and the foreign minister there, in an attempt to improve deteriorating relations.
Tensions were renewed on Monday, after Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan declared that Israel was endangering world peace by using exaggerated force against the Palestinians, breaching Lebanon's air space and waters and for not revealing the details of its nuclear program.
According to Foreign Ministry sources, Lieberman is now looking to "heat things up" before Barak's trip, so as to torpedo attempts to mend the tensions.
"We get the sense that Lieberman wants to heat things up before Barak's visit," a senior Foreign Ministry source said. "All of the recent activities were part of Lieberman's political agenda."
The Turkish government was expected to give a warm welcome to Barak, who alongside Labor Minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer was looking to bring the allies' relations back to stability.
The Foreign Ministry sources surmised that Lieberman's efforts were aimed at preventing Turkey from resuming its role as mediator in Israel's peace talks with Syria _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1142344.html Turkey PM: Israel's apology is satisfactory
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent, and The Associated Press
Tags: Benjamin Netanyahu
Turkey terms Israel's second apology for humiliating Turkish ambassador 'expected, desired response.'
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Wednesday declared that Turkey had received an official apology from Israel over what the Turkish ambassador termed "humiliating" treatment by Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister, saying that it was "the expected and desired response."
Erdogan added more criticism of Israel, telling a news conference: "Israel must put itself in order and it must be more just and more on the side of peace in the region."
Summoned Monday by Ayalon over an anti-Israeli television show aired in Turkey, Celikkol was made to sit in a chair lower than that of the deputy foreign minister, while the Turkish flag was deliberately not on display during the meeting.
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At the beginning of his Monday meeting with Celikkol, Ayalon told cameramen in Hebrew: "Pay attention that he is sitting in a lower chair ... that there is only an Israeli flag on the table and that we are not smiling."
In the letter of official apology, Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon wrote that "I had no intention to humiliate you personally and apologize for the way the demarche was handled and perceived."
"Please convey this to the Turkish people for whom we have great respect. I hope that both Israel and Turkey will seek diplomatic and courteous channels to convey messages as two allies should," the letter said.
The letter of apology was issued at the culmination of day-long consultations between Ankara and Jerusalem, made after the Turks announced that Ayalon's first apology was insufficient, and Jerusalem vowed no second apology would be made.
Ayalon had issued an apology on Tuesday night, but Ankara had threatened to recall Ahmet Oguz Celikkol if no second, formal apology was made. According to Turkish media reports, this step had been taken, with Celikkol set to return Thursday morning after Israel said no such apology was on the table.
"This is the final decision on the matter," said a senior Foreign Ministry official earlier Wednesday, referring to a second apology. The decision was made during consultations between the Foreign Ministry and the Prime Minister's Office, officials said.
Israel had passed to the highest levels of the Turkish Foreign Ministry a copy of Ayalon's initial apology, which was published in the media on Wednesday morning.
Shortly before midnight Tuesday, Israel's ambassador to Turkey, Gabriel Levy, called senior officials in the Turkish Foreign Ministry, and read to them the text of the apology from Ayalon. Levy stressed to the Turkish officials that this was a formal message from the government of Israel.
Ayalon issued the special statement of apology Tuesday night for his treatment of Celikkol on Monday. But Turkey on Wednesday threatened to recall the ambassador if the row over his treatment by Ayalon was not resolved to its satisfaction by Wednesday night.
"My protest of the attacks against Israel in Turkey still stands," Ayalon said. "However, it is not my way to insult foreign ambassadors and in the future I will clarify my position by more acceptable diplomatic means."
Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman on Wednesday said Israel doesn't want a confrontation with Turkey, but that it won't tolerate anti-Semitic remarks and incitement against Jews.
Lieberman said Israel respects Turkey and its people, and expects the same in return.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday expressed satisfaction with Ayalon's apology. He said that the deputy foreign minister's protest was justified, but that he should have used acceptable diplomatic means to express his outrage.
The deliberate insult enraged Turkey and deepened the rift that has emerged over the past year between the Jewish state and its closest friend in the Muslim world.
Turkish ire
The Turkish ambassador and the Turkish government were furious at the humiliation. In a sharply worded ultimatum to Israel earlier Tuesday, Ankara demanded an apology for what it described as Ayalon's demeaning treatment of its ambassador.
Headlines in Turkish newspapers on Wednesday showed deep outrage over the incident.
"Insolence," blared the daily Vatan, and Cumhuriyet proclaimed, "Ties with Israel are breaking down."
"Vile conspiracy," railed the Sabah, while the pro-Islamic Yeni Safak newspaper fumed: "Despicable and immoral."
Sources in the Prime Minister's Bureau said Tuesday the decision to invite the Turkish ambassador for a reprimand by Ayalon was made together with Lieberman.
At the Prime Minister's Bureau, they noted that Netanyahu was not aware of the way the reprimand would be carried out, "but the minute it happened the prime minister [gave] the foreign minister his full backing." _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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Да-а, многого насмотрелся многоопытный турецкий посол за всю свою долгую 30-летнюю службу на дипломатическом поприще. И в Сирии был, и в Греции (!), и в Ираке, кое-где даже опасности подвергался, но даже в страшном сне не мог себе представить какое страшное оскорбление нанесут ему в Израиле, посадят на низкую кушетку и так далее...
Сидя на кушетке уже начал, наверное, дико озираться, осматривая мощные фигуры с каменными лицами сидящие перед ним, прикидывая, у кого из них меч. Сейчас, думал посол, вытащят из ножен блистающий меч и с ним поступят так же как с тем Татарином, как у Пушкина описано, и получит турецкий султан его буйную головушку в подарок...
Но обошлось.... Попугали и отпустили....
ANALYSIS / Turkish envoy 'has never been more humiliated'
By Zvi Bar'el, Haaretz Correspondent
Tags: Turkey, Israel news
The notice issued by the Turkish Foreign Ministry last October announcing the appointment of Ahmet Oguz Celikkol as ambassador to Israel filled him with joy. Celikkol, among the Turkish Foreign Ministry's senior officials, had visited Israel a number of times as part of his duties as head of the Middle Eastern division and hoped to get to know the country from up close.
When he arrived, he spoke of Turkey's intentions to broaden trade with Israel to $8 billion, to hold business and cultural forums, and to tighten security cooperation. Three months later, it's doubtful whether any of that optimism remains.
Those close to him say "he had never been so humiliated in the three decades he served as a diplomat. The kind of [treatment] he was subjected to is not done even to an enemy, and certainly not to the ambassador of a friendly country."
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Celikkol is an experienced diplomat. He has served as ambassador to Syria and Greece, and as Turkish coordinator in Iraq. He has experienced difficult situations, even dangerous ones, "but he did not imagine that in a country that aspires to expand its trade with Turkey, and which seeks security cooperation, and which has similar attitudes on what Israel's and Jewish interests are, he would suffer the gravest insult in his life," a source close to the ambassador said.
Celikkol was at his office late into the night Tuesday, going over the details of Defense Minister Ehud Barak's pending visit to Ankara. Barak will not meet with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, but at the embassy they were quick to note that this "is not a retaliation to the incident at the Foreign Ministry."
Indeed, that was the plan from the start. What is puzzling to the Turks is the behavior of Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon, who had been a regular guest of the embassy and was viewed as a friend. "How could he behave so rudely? On the one hand he says something to the ambassador that makes him smile, and then he turns to the cameramen and tells them something else, something so insulting," sources close to Celikkol said.
It turns out the ambassador was not aware that he had been called in for a reprimand. He had asked to meet with Ayalon several days earlier, but had been told this week that the meeting would be scheduled for Thursday. He attributed the call to come in on Monday to a change in scheduling, nothing else.
When Celikkol arrived at the deputy foreign minister's office he was surprised to find television cameras and the tribunal, headed by Ayalon, waiting to reprimand him. "The only thing missing," said one source, "was for a shiny sword to be pulled out from one of the drawers and the deputy minister taking off his head and sending it to Ankara, as was typical under the Sultans." _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent, and The Associated Press
Last Update: 14/01/2010 00:00
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Wednesday declared that Turkey had received an official apology from Israel over what the Turkish ambassador termed "humiliating" treatment by Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister, saying that it was "the expected and desired response."
Erdogan added more criticism of Israel, telling a news conference: "Israel must put itself in order and it must be more just and more on the side of peace in the region."
Summoned Monday by Ayalon over an anti-Israeli television show aired in Turkey, Celikkol was made to sit in a chair lower than that of the deputy foreign minister, while the Turkish flag was deliberately not on display during the meeting.
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At the beginning of his Monday meeting with Celikkol, Ayalon told cameramen in Hebrew: "Pay attention that he is sitting in a lower chair ... that there is only an Israeli flag on the table and that we are not smiling."
In the letter of official apology, Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon wrote that "I had no intention to humiliate you personally and apologize for the way the demarche was handled and perceived."
"Please convey this to the Turkish people for whom we have great respect. I hope that both Israel and Turkey will seek diplomatic and courteous channels to convey messages as two allies should," the letter said.
The letter of apology was issued at the culmination of day-long consultations between Ankara and Jerusalem, made after the Turks announced that Ayalon's first apology was insufficient, and Jerusalem vowed no second apology would be made.
Ayalon had issued an apology on Tuesday night, but Ankara had threatened to recall Ahmet Oguz Celikkol if no second, formal apology was made. According to Turkish media reports, this step had been taken, with Celikkol set to return Thursday morning after Israel said no such apology was on the table.
"This is the final decision on the matter," said a senior Foreign Ministry official earlier Wednesday, referring to a second apology. The decision was made during consultations between the Foreign Ministry and the Prime Minister's Office, officials said.
Israel had passed to the highest levels of the Turkish Foreign Ministry a copy of Ayalon's initial apology, which was published in the media on Wednesday morning.
Shortly before midnight Tuesday, Israel's ambassador to Turkey, Gabriel Levy, called senior officials in the Turkish Foreign Ministry, and read to them the text of the apology from Ayalon. Levy stressed to the Turkish officials that this was a formal message from the government of Israel.
Ayalon issued the special statement of apology Tuesday night for his treatment of Celikkol on Monday. But Turkey on Wednesday threatened to recall the ambassador if the row over his treatment by Ayalon was not resolved to its satisfaction by Wednesday night.
"My protest of the attacks against Israel in Turkey still stands," Ayalon said. "However, it is not my way to insult foreign ambassadors and in the future I will clarify my position by more acceptable diplomatic means."
Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman on Wednesday said Israel doesn't want a confrontation with Turkey, but that it won't tolerate anti-Semitic remarks and incitement against Jews.
Lieberman said Israel respects Turkey and its people, and expects the same in return.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday expressed satisfaction with Ayalon's apology. He said that the deputy foreign minister's protest was justified, but that he should have used acceptable diplomatic means to express his outrage.
The deliberate insult enraged Turkey and deepened the rift that has emerged over the past year between the Jewish state and its closest friend in the Muslim world.
Turkish ire
The Turkish ambassador and the Turkish government were furious at the humiliation. In a sharply worded ultimatum to Israel earlier Tuesday, Ankara demanded an apology for what it described as Ayalon's demeaning treatment of its ambassador.
Headlines in Turkish newspapers on Wednesday showed deep outrage over the incident.
"Insolence," blared the daily Vatan, and Cumhuriyet proclaimed, "Ties with Israel are breaking down."
"Vile conspiracy," railed the Sabah, while the pro-Islamic Yeni Safak newspaper fumed: "Despicable and immoral."
Sources in the Prime Minister's Bureau said Tuesday the decision to invite the Turkish ambassador for a reprimand by Ayalon was made together with Lieberman.
At the Prime Minister's Bureau, they noted that Netanyahu was not aware of the way the reprimand would be carried out, "but the minute it happened the prime minister [gave] the foreign minister his full backing." _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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By Asbarez Staff on Jan 12th, 2010 and filed under International, News, Top Stories, Turkey.
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ANKARA (Hurriyet)–Verbal sparring, canceled meetings and an escalating diplomatic crisis between Turkey and Israel are recalling sharp memories from last year at Davos when Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan walked out of a discussion panel with Israel’s President Shimon Peres. ‘The word scandal is not enough to describe this move,’ says one Turkish parliamentarian
Nearly a year after the Davos crisis between Turkey and Israel, the former regional allies are engaged in another round of fresh turmoil full of diplomatic protests and criticism-laden statements.
The Turkish Foreign Ministry summoned Israel’s ambassador to Ankara on Tuesday, seeking an explanation for the undiplomatic treatment in Tel Aviv of the Turkish ambassador and for the strongly worded statement made by the Israeli foreign ministry.
Israeli Ambassador Gaby Levy coincidentally had a scheduled meeting at the Foreign Ministry on Tuesday, diplomatic sources said, but after the escalating tension, he was summoned for another meeting with Turkish Foreign Ministry Undersecretary Feridun Sinirlioglu.
Issuing a counter-statement to the Turkish government’s repeated criticism of Israel’s Gaza policy, the Israeli Foreign Ministry said, “Turkey is the last [country] that can preach morality to Israel and the [Israeli Defense Forces.]”
The Turkish Foreign Ministry strongly condemned the Israeli statement, saying it was made to serve domestic political purposes.
In a written statement, the ministry said Turkey favors dialogue, engagement and peaceful methods in the region rather than the use of disproportionate force and isolation policies. It also defended the Turkish prime minister’s move targeting “Israel’s unacceptable policies in Gaza.”
“Thus, we are rejecting the allegation that Turkey is the last country that can preach morality to Israel, which itself does not comply with the Jewish people’s memory. This expression that distorts the truth is unjust to history,” the ministry said.
Ankara added that the relationship between Turks and Jews dating back before the establishment of the Israeli state, as well as the general texture of Turkish-Israeli relations, has given Turkey the responsibility to give warnings and make criticisms. The ministry rejected the allegations of anti-Semitism, saying that throughout history, whenever Jews faced difficulty, Turks have extended a hand and that the culture of co-existence between Turks and Jews was based on respect and tolerance.
“The claims from the other side of provoking anti-Semitism are baseless,” read the statement.
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said the presence of a coalition government in Israel was not an excuse for the treatment and harsh statements targeting Turkey.
“A coalition government usually adopts common principles that everyone approaches respectfully. We are not tolerating this approach,” Erdogan said before departing for Russia on Tuesday. “History is the witness that we have demonstrated the necessary tolerance to Jewish people. But any sort of an approach like that will always be retaliated by Turkey.”
In response to a question, Erdogan said he would not meet with Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who will visit Turkey on Sunday.
Late Monday, Israel’s deputy foreign minister, Danny Ayalon, summoned Ambassador Oguz Celikkol to answer criticisms of a Turkish television drama, “Valley of the Wolves,” that depicts Israeli intelligence agents kidnapping children and shooting old men. Even more than the criticism, the photographic and video images from that meeting, first published in the Israeli press and then displayed on almost all Turkish televisions, sparked resentment.
According to the Israeli press, Ayalon told the cameramen in Hebrew that Celikkol had been purposely seated on a sofa lower than his own chair. In the video images, the Turkish ambassador is seen being kept waiting at the door before meeting with Israeli officials; in the room, there is only an Israeli flag on display. No Turkish flag is seen.
Turkey’s protest of this undiplomatic treatment was conveyed to Israel during the meeting between the Israeli envoy and the ministry undersecretary and Ankara is awaiting an explanation and apology, said another written statement released by the Turkish Foreign Ministry.
“We are calling on the Israeli Foreign Ministry, which adopted an undiplomatic stance both in rhetoric and treatment during the meeting with our ambassador in Tel Aviv, to abide by the rules of diplomatic courtesy and respect,” warned the ministry.
“We see it useful to stress that nobody has the right to subject Turkey to such a moral listing,” the ministry added, referring to the Israel statement about Turkey preaching morality to Israel.
Relations between Turkey and Israel have been on the decline, especially in the wake of Israel’s Gaza war last year, and were further strained when Erdogan stormed out of a panel discussion in Davos after a heated duel with the Israeli president, and when Ankara excluded Tel Aviv from an international military exercise.
The latest skirmish was sparked by Erdogan’s remarks at a joint press conference with the Lebanese prime minister Monday in Ankara, in which he lashed out at Israel and accused it of threatening peace in the region and using disproportionate force.
The Israeli government is divided over its relationship with Turkey. The Labor Party camp led by Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who will pay a one-day visit to Turkey on Sunday, favors mending ties with Turkey, while Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman adopts a more hawkish attitude.
According to Israeli media, Lieberman has been trying to stop Barak from visiting Turkey next week to keep tensions high between the two allied countries while preventing Turkey from resuming its role as a mediator in Israel’s peace talks with Syria.
Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arınc blamed “Lieberman and his team” for the recent tension. “This is unpleasant behavior, but it is not unexpected. This, however, does not mean that we are forgiving Israel,” said Arinc, an influential figure in the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP).
Israel’s treatment of the Turkish ambassador drew reactions from the country’s opposition parties as well. Devlet Bahceli, the leader of the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP), described it as impudence and called on Israel to apologize. Onur Oymen, a former diplomat and deputy leader of the Republican People’s Party (CHP), said no country had the right to behave in such a way to the representative of the Republic of Turkey.
“The word ‘scandal’ is not enough to describe this move,” Oymen said. _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
Да-а, многого насмотрелся многоопытный турецкий посол за всю свою долгую 30-летнюю службу на дипломатическом поприще. И в Сирии был, и в Греции (!), и в Ираке, кое-где даже опасности подвергался, но даже в страшном сне не мог себе представить какое страшное оскорбление нанесут ему в Израиле, посадят на низкую кушетку и так далее...
Зачем садился на низкую кушетку, если многоопытный, и подвергал себя, как Вождь выразился: "и так далее..."?
Извинился, сославшись на внезапное нездоровье и удалился
Однако тоже опасно... Могли бы и уложить на кушетку... Ужассссссс!!!
Что-то в этой истории не связывается .... А может многопытный турок-дурак?
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