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Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 6 2008, 16:55:26     : Îáàìà ïîáåäèë è....

...÷òî äîëæíà â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü ñäåëàòü ïðåññà?

Ïîçäðàâèòü åãî, ïðàâèëüíî.

À äàëüøå? Èçâåñòíî ÷òî: íà÷àòü òîïòàòü ïðîèãðàâøåãî êîíêóðåíòà:


http://www.inopressa.ru/times/2008/11/06/15:34:20/sara
Ñàðà Ïýëèí íå çíàëà, ÷òî Àôðèêà – êîíòèíåíò, è âûõîäèëà ê ñîâåòíèêàì â ïîëîòåíöå
Ýí Áýðîêëî

Ïî ñëîâàì ïîìîùíèêîâ, Ñàðà Ïýëèí ïîòðàòèëà äàæå áîëüøå ÷åì 150 òûñÿ÷ äîëëàðîâ èç ïðåäâûáîðíîãî ôîíäà íà îäåæäó, âñòðå÷àëàñü ñ ñîâåòíèêàìè â ñâîåì ãîñòèíè÷íîì íîìåðå îäåòàÿ ëèøü â ïîëîòåíöå è íå çíàëà, ÷òî Àôðèêà – ýòî êîíòèíåíò, ïèøåò ñåãîäíÿ The Times ñî ññûëêîé íà íîâóþ èíôîðìàöèþ.

Êàê ñîîáùèë òåëåêàíàë Fox News, Ïýëèí íå ïîíèìàëà, ÷òî Àôðèêà – ýòî êîíòèíåíò, à íå íàçâàíèå ãîñóäàðñòâà. Òàêæå îíà íå çíàëà, êàêèå ñòðàíû âõîäÿò â ñîñòàâ çîíû ñâîáîäíîé òîðãîâëè North American Free Trade Agreement (ÍÀÔÒÀ).

Ðàíåå óæå ñîîáùàëîñü, â ÷àñòíîñòè â æóðíàëå Newsweek, ÷òî êàíäèäàò íà ïîñò âèöå-ïðåçèäåíòà îò Ðåñïóáëèêàíñêîé ïàðòèè ïðèîáðåëà òðè êîñòþìà äëÿ ñúåçäà ïàðòèè è íàíÿëà ñòèëèñòà ñ ýòîé æå öåëüþ. Êàê âûÿñíÿåòñÿ òåïåðü, îíà ïîåõàëà çà íàðÿäàìè â òàêèå ýëèòíûå ìàãàçèíû, êàê Saks Fifth Avenue è Neiman Marcus. Êàê ñîîáùèë îäèí ìàãàçèí, áîëüøàÿ ÷àñòü ýòîé îäåæäû áûëà ïðèîáðåòåíà íåêèì áîãàòûì ñïîíñîðîì, êîòîðûé, âïðî÷åì, "áûë øîêèðîâàí, êîãäà ïîëó÷èë ñ÷åò".

Âîçìóùåííûé áûâøèé ïîìîùíèê Ïýëèí îõàðàêòåðèçîâàë åå ïîâåäåíèå â áóòèêàõ òàê: "äåðåâåíùèíà èç Àëÿñêè ñîâåðøèëà ìàðîäåðñêèé íàáåã íà Neiman Marcus è ïðî÷åñàëà åãî ñâåðõó äîíèçó". Ïî åãî ïðåäñêàçàíèÿì, âñå ýòî âñïëûâåò âî âðåìÿ àóäèòîðñêîé ïðîâåðêè áþäæåòà ïàðòèè.

Ñî ññûëêîé íà Newsweek æóðíàëèñò òàêæå óïîìèíàåò, ÷òî âî âðåìÿ ñúåçäà Ðåñïóáëèêàíñêîé ïàðòèè â Ñåíò-Ïîëå îíà íå ïîñòåñíÿëàñü âûéòè íà ñîâåùàíèå ê ñîâåòíèêàì Ìàêêåéíà, ïðîõîäèâøåì â åå ãîñòèíè÷íîì íîìåðå, ëèøü â íàáðîøåííîì ïîëîòåíöå è ïîïðîñèëà "ïîäîæäàòü ìèíóòêó".


Äàæå ñòðàøíî ïðåäñòàâèòü ÷òî ñêàçàëè áû î Michelle Obama, åñëè áû ñàì Îáàìà ïðîèãðàë áû....À óæ ÷òî ñêàçàëè áû î åãî ò¸òå - îá ýòîì äàæå ñòðàøíî ïîäóìàòü....
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A la guerre comme a la guerre èëè âòîðàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ Çàáóãîðíîâà
remi



: 11.03.2008
: 15
: Chateau-Chinon

: , 9 2008, 19:55:01     : Re: Îáàìà ïîáåäèë è....

Zabougornov ():
...÷òî äîëæíà â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü ñäåëàòü ïðåññà?

Ïîçäðàâèòü åãî, ïðàâèëüíî.

À äàëüøå? Èçâåñòíî ÷òî: íà÷àòü òîïòàòü ïðîèãðàâøåãî êîíêóðåíòà:


Òàêîé òðàäèöèè â ÑØÀ íå ñóùåñòâóåò. Ïîäîáíîå õàðàêòåðíî äëÿ ïðåäâûáîðíîé êîìïàíèè. Ïðîèãðàâøèõ æå òîïòàòü- äåëî è íåêðàñèâîå è
áåññìûñëåííîå, ïîñêîëüêó íå ìîæåò ïðèíåñòè íèêàêèõ äèâèäåíòîâ.
À ïðèâåäåííàÿ àâòîðîì èíôîðìàöèÿ êðóòèëàñü â ÑÌÈ åùå âî âðåìÿ ïðåäâûáîðíîé êîìïàíèè. È íà Ñàðó Ï. "íàåçæàëè" óæå äîñòàòî÷íî äàâíî.
Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 9 2008, 20:23:46     : Re: Îáàìà ïîáåäèë è....

remi ():
Zabougornov ():
...÷òî äîëæíà â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü ñäåëàòü ïðåññà?

Ïîçäðàâèòü åãî, ïðàâèëüíî.

À äàëüøå? Èçâåñòíî ÷òî: íà÷àòü òîïòàòü ïðîèãðàâøåãî êîíêóðåíòà:


Òàêîé òðàäèöèè â ÑØÀ íå ñóùåñòâóåò.

ß ïèñàë íå î òðàäèöèè. Íå çíàþ ÿ, åñòü òàì òàêàÿ òðàäèöèÿ èëè íåò, ÿ ïðåäûäóùèå ïðåäâûáîðíûå êîìïàíèè íå àíàëèçèðîâàë. ß ïèñàë ëèøü î íðàâàõ òàìîøíåé ïðåññû.
remi ():

Ïîäîáíîå õàðàêòåðíî äëÿ ïðåäâûáîðíîé êîìïàíèè.

Äà, âåðíî, ñ îäíîé ëèøü ïîïðàâî÷êîé: íå òîïòàòü, à äèñêðåäèòèðîâàòü.
remi ():

Ïðîèãðàâøèõ æå òîïòàòü- äåëî è íåêðàñèâîå è áåññìûñëåííîå, ïîñêîëüêó íå ìîæåò ïðèíåñòè íèêàêèõ äèâèäåíòîâ.

×òî íåêðàñèâîå - äà ñîãëàñåí, ÿ, ñîáñòâåííî, îá ýòîì è ïèñàë.

À òî ÷òî äåëî áåññìûñëåííîå......íó ýòî êàê ñêàçàòü....

Çà÷åì íóæíî áûëî òîïòàòü óçíèêîâ â Àáó-Ãàðèáå? Êàêèå äèâèäåíòû îíî ìîãëî ïðèíåñòè? ×òî ñ ýòèõ óçíèêîâ ìîæíî æ áûëî âçÿòü? Îäíàêî æ òîïòàëè, åù¸ êàê òîïòàëè, òîëüêî ïåðüÿ ëåòåëè, âñ¸ ôîòîãðàôèðîâàëè-ïðîòîêîëèðîâàëè.

Ïðè÷¸ì êòî òîïòàë òî? Íå àðìåéñêèå ÷àñòè, êîòîðûå ìîãëè îçâåðåòü â áîÿõ, à òþðåìùèêè. Òîïòàëè èç ÷èñòîé ëþáâè ê èñêóññòâó, òàê ñêàçàòü.....

Ñ Ñàðîé Ïåëèí - òàæå ìîòèâàöèÿ.....
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A la guerre comme a la guerre èëè âòîðàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ Çàáóãîðíîâà
Princess Margaret



: 25.04.2008
: 1615
: France 69

: , 1 2009, 11:41:30     : Êòî âû, Áàðàê Îáàìà?!

 Àìåðèêå ñóùåñòâóåò ìíîãî÷èñëåííàÿ ãðóïïà, êîòîðàÿ âîîáùå ñîìíåâàåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî Îáàìà èìååò ïðàâî áûòü Ïðåçèäåíòîì.
Ïî èõ âåðñèè, îí - ÷åëîâåê íèîòêóäà.
Ñïèñîê îòñóòñòâóþùèõ äîêóìåíòîâ

Here’s a list of documentation that, as of 2008, was “unavailable”:

1. Occidental College records—Not released
2. Columbia College records—Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper—“Not available”
4. Harvard College records—Not released
5. Selective Service Registration—Not released
6. Medical records—Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule—“Not available”
8. Law practice client list—Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate—Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth—Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published—None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles—None
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Âñå, ÿ áîãàòà. Ïîêà, íåóäà÷íèêè, ÿ âàñ âñåãäà íåíàâèäåëà! Smile

î âèíàõ ïðîñòî è ñî âêóñîì
Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 1 2009, 12:45:18     :

Äà, ðåøèëè Îáàìó àòàêîâàòü ïî ëåãàëüíîé ëèíèè, òîåñòü ãäå òâîè äîêóìåíòû, òå äîêóìåíòû êîòîðûå åñòü - ñîìíèòåëüíû, è ìîæåò ëè áûòü ïðåçèäåíòîì ÷åëîâåê ñ ñîìíèòåëüíûìè äîêóìåíòàìè.

Íî àâòîð ñòàòüè ïðîòèâîðå÷èò ñàì ñåáå. Òî îí ãîâîðèò, òèïà, øèðîêîé ïóáëèêå íå áûëî ïðåäîñòàâëåíî ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè Îáàìà, à ïîòîì òóò æå ãîâîðèò ÷òî îíî òàêè áûëî ïîêàçàíî íà åãî ñàéòå.

Íåñòûêîâî÷êà...

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13273
Where’s Obama’s Birth Certificate?
Author
Alan Caruba Bio
By Alan Caruba Friday, July 31, 2009

It’s the question and/or controversy that will not go away. Where was President Barack Hussein Obama born and why won’t he produce a birth certificate?

Sometime ago I received an affidavit filed in the U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Pennsylvania, by Philip J. Berg, an attorney who briefly gained media attention when he asserted that President Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States and, under the U.S. Constitution, was disqualified from running for or holding the position of President.

The problem Berg presents is that he reportedly was a supporter of Hillary Clinton’s bid for the Democrat nomination and thus had a very political reason to challenge Obama’s citizenship. The courts, however, appear to have been extraordinarily reluctant to address the question.

Among the Berg documents I have seen is an affidavit attesting to a transcribed conversation between Bishop Kwele Shuhudra, Bishop of the Anabaptists Churches of North America, and Sarah Obama, the President’s grandmother or aunt, who confirmed that she was present when he was born in Kenya. Could she be mistaken? There also appears to be some confusion over which hospital in Hawaii Obama was born; if he was born there. No attending physician has ever stepped forth to confirm it.

Democrat spin doctors are, of course, circling the wagons around Obama who is alleged to have spent nearly a million dollars on lawyers to keep his birth and other public records secret.

The obvious question is why.

The problem for his defenders is that no birth certificate has been made available to the public and the Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth that was briefly shown on an Obama website has raised more questions than answers about its authenticity and has been challenged as a forgery.

Obama’s birth father met his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, when they were students at the University of Hawaii. It is entirely possible that she gave birth to Obama in Hawaii though there is some question whether a ceremony occurred generating a marriage certificate. Obama senior was already married to an African wife at the time. What is known is that Obama’s mother later married an Indonesian in 1965 and Obama spent his early years in Jakarta, starting in 1967.

The reason I am a “birther”, i.e., someone who remains skeptical, is fairly simple. I began my career as a journalist. I was trained to be skeptical and to expect to see documentation and proof that whatever is asserted is true.

This means that I am suspicious when a candidate for president has virtually no paper trail of documents. No journalist has seen Obama’s alleged birth certificate because it is “under seal” in Hawaii at the order of its Governor. Why?

Here’s a list of documentation that, as of 2008, was “unavailable”:

1. Occidental College records—Not released
2. Columbia College records—Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper—“Not available”
4. Harvard College records—Not released
5. Selective Service Registration—Not released
6. Medical records—Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule—“Not available”
8. Law practice client list—Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate—Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth—Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published—None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles—None

What does anyone REALLY know about Obama? They “know” the life story he put forth in two memoirs, one of which was published before he ever ran for a public office. Even here, his authorship of the books has been challenged because the text to an astonishing extent resembles books and articles written by Bill Ayers, a close friend and best known as having been a domestic terrorist, a member of the Weatherman in the 1960s.

Does it matter? The answer is yes. It matters in the most serious way possible. We cannot have someone holding the power of the presidency that does not qualify under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution.

It should be a cause for genuine concern that he continues to stonewall all attempts to determine his place of birth, his citizenship, or any of the other major parts of his life leading up to having first served in the Illinois legislature and then as a U.S. Senator.

The mainstream media have been extraordinarily disinterested in any credible documentation of Obama’s life story. Something is very wrong about that.

Something is bizarre that Time Magazine is putting Obama’s picture on the cover for a twelfth time in twelve months!

Obama’s rise to power has been meteoric. His path there remains shrouded in deliberate obscurity.

Obama’s popularity and approval ratings by both the Gallup and Rasmussen polling organizations have been dropping precipitously. All the spin in the world will not reverse this, but one step in the right direction would be to produce his birth certificate.
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A la guerre comme a la guerre èëè âòîðàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ Çàáóãîðíîâà
Princess Margaret



: 25.04.2008
: 1615
: France 69

: , 1 2009, 13:07:30     :

Äà íå îí îäèí ñîìíåâàåòñÿ. ×èñëî èõ ðàñòåò â ãåîìåòðè÷åñêîé ïðîãðåññèè.
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Òî îí ãîâîðèò, òèïà, øèðîêîé ïóáëèêå íå áûëî ïðåäîñòàâëåíî ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè Îáàìà, à ïîòîì òóò æå ãîâîðèò ÷òî îíî òàêè áûëî ïîêàçàíî íà åãî ñàéòå.


:
The problem for his defenders is that no birth certificate has been made available to the public and the Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth that was briefly shown on an Obama website has raised more questions than answers about its authenticity and has been challenged as a forgery.


:
Íåñòûêîâî÷êè
íèêàêîé íåò.
official birth certificate è ìåäèöèíñêàÿ ñïðàâêà medical certificatin of live birth - êîòîðàÿ è áûëà ïðîäåìîíñòðèðîâàíà íà îôèöèàëüíîì ñàéòå Îáàìû - íå îäíî è òî æå.
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Âñå, ÿ áîãàòà. Ïîêà, íåóäà÷íèêè, ÿ âàñ âñåãäà íåíàâèäåëà! Smile

î âèíàõ ïðîñòî è ñî âêóñîì


: Princess Margaret (, 1 2009, 13:18:54), 3 ()
Princess Margaret



: 25.04.2008
: 1615
: France 69

: , 1 2009, 13:11:20     :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231542/Barack-Obama-British-detective-Neil-Sankey-claims-lied-birth-President.html
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Âñå, ÿ áîãàòà. Ïîêà, íåóäà÷íèêè, ÿ âàñ âñåãäà íåíàâèäåëà! Smile

î âèíàõ ïðîñòî è ñî âêóñîì
Princess Margaret



: 25.04.2008
: 1615
: France 69

: , 1 2009, 13:11:32     :

Ê ýòîé ñòàòüå åñòü äâà ëþáîïûòíûõ êîììåíòàðèÿ
Ïåðâûé
Regardless of all the goofy speculation, why doesn't he release his records? His student records, including his admission records and his thesis are also missing. Why doesn't he just release these records and stop the speculation?

è âòîðîé
The prpblem is many "curious conspiracy theories" are now turning out to be right. One example of a conspiracy theory was when Ted Heath was claimed to have agreed to the then EEC eventually becoming a single nation state. Anti-EU campaigners were laughted at but documents released from the government archives prove they were right all along. Just because they are labelled "conspiracy theories" it does not mean they are wrong.
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Âñå, ÿ áîãàòà. Ïîêà, íåóäà÷íèêè, ÿ âàñ âñåãäà íåíàâèäåëà! Smile

î âèíàõ ïðîñòî è ñî âêóñîì
Princess Margaret



: 25.04.2008
: 1615
: France 69

: , 1 2009, 13:39:19     :

Òî, ÷òî Îáàìà - ìàðèîíåòêà, íèêàêèõ ñîìíåíèé íåò. Òîëüêî âîò ÷üÿ?
:
Íèêàêîé ïîëèòè÷åñêîé áèîãðàôèè çà åãî ñïèíîé íåò. Îí íè÷åì íå ðóêîâîäèë äàæå íà ìàëîì óðîâíå. Îáû÷íî êàíäèäàòû â ïðåçèäåíòû âûõîäÿò èç ãóáåðíàòîðîâ, íà õóäîé êîíåö, èç ìíîãîëåòíèõ ñåíàòîðîâ, -ëþäåé, èìåþùèõ êîíêðåòíûé îïûò ðóêîâîäñòâà. Âåäü ïðåçèäåíò Àìåðèêè äîëæåí áûòü ðóêîâîäèòåëåì âñåé ñòðàíû è ãëàâíîêîìàíäóþùèì àðìèåé. Òîëïà, ïîäæèãàåìàÿ ýíòóçèàçìîì ÑÌÈ è õîðîøî ïîñòàâëåííîé ïðîïàãàíäîé ïóñòîçâîíà, ñäåëàëà èç íåãî "íàðîäíîãî òðèáóíà".
Çà ëèêîâàíèåì òîëïû, çà ïðîïàãàíäîé ÑÌÈ, çà òðèóìôàëüíûì øåñòâèåì ïî ãîðîäàì è âåñÿì Àìåðèêè íèêòî íå çàìå÷àåò äåòàëåé. Ïîäóìàåøü, â äåòñòâå âîñïèòûâàëñÿ â ìåäðåñå â Èíäîíåçèè, ó÷èëñÿ â ìåäðåñå è íîñèò ìóñóëüìàíñêèå èìÿ è ôàìèëèþ, íå áðåçãîâàë íàðêîòèêàìè.

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Âñå, ÿ áîãàòà. Ïîêà, íåóäà÷íèêè, ÿ âàñ âñåãäà íåíàâèäåëà! Smile

î âèíàõ ïðîñòî è ñî âêóñîì
Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 1 2009, 16:14:15     :

Princess Margaret ():
Äà íå îí îäèí ñîìíåâàåòñÿ. ×èñëî èõ ðàñòåò â ãåîìåòðè÷åñêîé ïðîãðåññèè.
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Òî îí ãîâîðèò, òèïà, øèðîêîé ïóáëèêå íå áûëî ïðåäîñòàâëåíî ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè Îáàìà, à ïîòîì òóò æå ãîâîðèò ÷òî îíî òàêè áûëî ïîêàçàíî íà åãî ñàéòå.


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The problem for his defenders is that no birth certificate has been made available to the public and the Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth that was briefly shown on an Obama website has raised more questions than answers about its authenticity and has been challenged as a forgery.


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Íåñòûêîâî÷êè
íèêàêîé íåò.
official birth certificate è ìåäèöèíñêàÿ ñïðàâêà medical certificatin of live birth - êîòîðàÿ è áûëà ïðîäåìîíñòðèðîâàíà íà îôèöèàëüíîì ñàéòå Îáàìû - íå îäíî è òî æå.

Íåâåðíî. Íå ñóùåñòâóåò äîêóìåíòîâ îçàãëàâëåííûõ "official birth certificate", "medical certificatin of live birth".

Ñóùåñòâóåò äîêóìåíò, Birth Certificate, êîòîðûé ìîæåò èìåòü êðàòêèé è ðàçâ¸ðíóòûé ôîðìàò è ìîæåò áûòü îçàãëàâëåí:"Certification of Birth", "Certification of Live Birth", or "Certificate of Birth Registration". Âñå ýòè ôîðìàòû - îôèöèàëüíûå. Äîïîëíèòåëüíàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ çäåñü.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_certificate#cite_note-2003rev-3

Íå äóìàþ ÷òî Îáàìà ïîêàçûâàë íà ñâî¸ì ñàéòå èíîé ñåðòèôèêàò ÷åì âîò ýòîò, ïðåäñòàâëåííûé Âèêèïåäèåé:

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A la guerre comme a la guerre èëè âòîðàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ Çàáóãîðíîâà
Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
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: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

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Princess Margaret ():
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231542/Barack-Obama-British-detective-Neil-Sankey-claims-lied-birth-President.html

As a highly regarded young detective, Neil Sankey was once seconded to elite Scotland Yard units hunting down IRA bombers, dangerous anarchists and organised crime barons.

Today, however, almost 30 years after quitting Hampshire constabulary to become a private investigator in California, he is wrestling with an inquiry that is as controversial as it is complex; one that makes that his former police work seem mundane by comparison.

Now aged 64, and semi-retired, Mr Sankey is attempting to prove that Barack Obama is guilty of the most audacious act of fraud in U.S political history, having become President when he was not even eligible to run for office.

The infant Obama with his mother, Ann Dunham, who met his father at university

He is conducting his inquiries on behalf of a protest group known as the 'Birthers' - so-called because they claim Obama lied about his birth place to satisfy the requirements of the U.S constitution, which stipulates that the President must be a 'natural born' American citizen.

According to his biography, Obama was born 48 years ago in Hawaii, the 50th state of the union. But the Birthers are convinced that he came into the world in Kenya, his father's homeland, and Mr Sankey claims he has already uncovered a great deal of evidence to support this astonishing assertion.

'As an investigator it has become obvious to me that something very strange is going on,' he intoned gravely when we spoke this week.

'His background throws up all kinds of anomalies. It may sound incredible (but) this guy comes from nowhere. No one really knows who he is.'



Êðóòîé ÷àñòíûé äåòåêòèâ, îäíàêî! Åìó áû åù¸ êàêèõ-íèáóäü ôàêòîâ äîáûòü - öåíû á åìó íå áûëî!

Íî ÷òî ôàêòû, îí è áåç ôàêòîâ êðóò: ìíå ñòàëî î÷åâèäíî ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò ÷òî-òî î÷åíü ñòðàííîå.....â åãî áèîãðàôèè ïîëíî àíîìàëèé....÷åëîâåê êîòîðûé ïðèø¸ë íèîòêóäà.....íèêòî â äåéñòâèòåëüíîñòè î í¸ì íè÷åãî íå çíàåò.....
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A la guerre comme a la guerre èëè âòîðàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ Çàáóãîðíîâà
Princess Margaret



: 25.04.2008
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Ýòîò äîêóìåíò èçâåñòåí.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AubGSuxvXq4&feature=related
Íî ðå÷ü íå î íåì.
Ïîñìîòðèòå, òàì ïîêàçàíî, êàê âûãëÿäèò ÍÀÑÒÎßÙÈÉ äîêóìåíò, âûäàííûé áëèçíåöàì, ðîæäåííûì ííà Ãàâàÿõ çà äåíü äî ðîæäåíèÿ Îáàìû. Ãäå îí âñå-òàêè ðîäèëñÿ?! È êòî îí òàêîé?
Åãî îòåö ïîãèá Cool â Êåíèè êîãäà Îáàìå áûëî äâà ãîäà. Åãî ìàòü... òîæå Cool äàâíî óìåðëà. Ëþäåé, êîòîðûõ ìîæíî ñïðîñèòü î òîì, êòî îí è îòêóäà, ñåé÷àñ ïî÷òè íå îñòàëîñü â æèâûõ. Íó íå â Êåíèþ æå åõàòü ê åãî 80-ëåòíåé àôðèêàíñêîé áàáóøêå! Àìåðèêàíñêàÿ áàáóøêà, ìàòü åãî áåëîé ìàòåðè, òîæå Cool íåäàâíî ñêîðîïîñòèæíî ñêîí÷àëàñü. Âàñ ýòî íå óäèâëÿåò? Rolling Eyes
Ýòî, ïîâòîðÿþ, âåðñèÿ ëþäåé, êîòîðûå ñîìíåâàþòñÿ â åãî ïðàâå íà ïðåçèäåíòñòâî è çàäàþò âîïðîñ - "Êòî âû, ìèñòåð Îáàìà?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zsW3amInx8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd5gm8XKv_w&feature=fvw
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Âñå, ÿ áîãàòà. Ïîêà, íåóäà÷íèêè, ÿ âàñ âñåãäà íåíàâèäåëà! Smile

î âèíàõ ïðîñòî è ñî âêóñîì


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Princess Margaret



: 25.04.2008
: 1615
: France 69

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ìíå ñòàëî î÷åâèäíî ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò ÷òî-òî î÷åíü ñòðàííîå.....â åãî áèîãðàôèè ïîëíî àíîìàëèé....÷åëîâåê êîòîðûé ïðèø¸ë íèîòêóäà.....íèêòî â äåéñòâèòåëüíîñòè î í¸ì íè÷åãî íå çíàåò


Íî âåäü îí ïðàâ. Rolling Eyes
Âîò òóò åùå îäèí þðèñò îñïàðèâàåò äîêóìåíò Îáàìû è ïîêàçûâàåò ïîäëèííûé.

http://www.7kanal.com/news.php3?id=265893

Êòî âû, ìèñòåð Îáàìà?
Òðè ðîäèíû àìåðèêàíñêîãî ïðåçèäåíòà: ìèô èëè ïðàâäà

Ìàòåðèàë: Àëåêñàíäð Ðîçåíçàôò
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Áàðàê Õóñåéí Îáàìà íå òîò ÷åëîâåê, çà êîãî ñåáÿ âûäàåò, — ýòî ïûòàþòñÿ äîêàçàòü åãî íåïðèìèðèìûå ïðîòèâíèêè èç ÑØÀ. Åñëè óòâåðæäåíèÿ àìåðèêàíñêèõ “ïðàâäîèñêàòåëåé” î íåëåãèòèìíîñòè 44-ãî õîçÿèíà Áåëîãî äîìà áóäóò ïîäòâåðæäåíû ñóäîì, ÑØÀ îæèäàþò ïîëèòè÷åñêèå ïîòðÿñåíèÿ ïîõëåùå çíàìåíèòîãî “óîòåðãåéòñêîãî äåëà”. Àäâîêàò èç Êàëèôîðíèè, áûâøàÿ ñîâåòñêàÿ ãðàæäàíêà Îðëè Òàéòö , óæå áîëåå 20 ëåò æèâóùàÿ â ÑØÀ, â ýêñêëþçèâíîì èíòåðâüþ “ÌÊ” âïåðâûå ðàññêàçàëà î ïîäðîáíîñòÿõ ÷àñòíîãî ðàññëåäîâàíèÿ áèîãðàôèè ïðåçèäåíòà Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ, èìåþùåãî, ïî äàííûì àäâîêàòà, íåñêîëüêî èìåí, òðè ãðàæäàíñòâà, 39 íîìåðîâ óäîñòîâåðåíèé ëè÷íîñòè è 140 àäðåñîâ ïî âñåé Àìåðèêå.

Êåíèéñêèé ñëåä

Íåäàâíî Îðëè Òàéòö â ïîäòâåðæäåíèå ñâîåé âåðñèè âûëîæèëà â èíòåðíåò ñåíñàöèîííûé äîêóìåíò — êîïèþ ñâèäåòåëüñòâà î ðîæäåíèè àìåðèêàíñêîãî ïðåçèäåíòà, ãäå ìåñòîì ðîæäåíèÿ çàïèñàí êåíèéñêèé ãîðîä Ìîìáàñà, à íå øòàò Ãàâàéè, êàê óêàçàíî â îôèöèàëüíîé áèîãðàôèè. Ñ âîïðîñà î òîì, êàê ê Îðëè Òàéòö ïîïàë ýòîò ñêàíäàëüíûé äîêóìåíò, è íà÷àëîñü íàøå èíòåðâüþ.

— ×åëîâåê, ïåðåäàâøèé ìíå íàñòîÿùåå ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè Áàðàêà Îáàìû, õî÷åò îñòàòüñÿ àíîíèìíûì. Îí áîèòñÿ, ÷òî ïðîòèâ íåãî íà÷íóòñÿ ãîíåíèÿ. Ñêàæó ëèøü, ÷òî äîêóìåíò ïîëó÷åí â Êåíèè.  ýòîé ñòðàíå âñå, ÷òî êàñàåòñÿ áèîãðàôèè Áàðàêà Îáàìû è åãî ñåìüè, íàõîäèòñÿ ïîä ñòðîãîé öåíçóðîé âëàñòåé. È ãëàâíàÿ ïðè÷èíà — ðîäñòâåííûå îòíîøåíèÿ ìåæäó ïðåìüåð-ìèíèñòðîì Êåíèè Ðàèëà Àìîëî Îäèíãîé è ïðåçèäåíòîì ÑØÀ, ÿâëÿþùèìèñÿ äâîþðîäíûìè áðàòüÿìè.

Èíòåðåñíûé ôàêò ê ëè÷íîñòè ýòîãî ÷åëîâåêà è óðîâíþ îòíîøåíèé ñ Îáàìîé: Îäèíãà ðîäèëñÿ è âûðîñ â Êåíèè, íî ìîëîäûå ãîäû ïðîâåë â ÃÄÐ, â Áåðëèíñêîì óíèâåðñèòåòå èìåíè Êàðëà Ìàðêñà. Ïîñëå þíîøåñêîãî óâëå÷åíèÿ êîììóíèçìîì è àòåèçìîì â ïîñëåäíèå ãîäû ñòàë ïîñëåäîâàòåëåì ðàäèêàëüíîãî èñëàìà. Îäíàêî, äàæå íåñìîòðÿ íà ïðèâåðæåííîñòü ïîäîáíûì âçãëÿäàì, íåñêîëüêî ëåò íàçàä Áàðàê Îáàìà ïîìîãàë Îäèíãå âî âðåìÿ âûáîðîâ. Âìåñòå ñ æåíîé îí ïðèåõàë â Êåíèþ àãèòèðîâàòü çà ñâîåãî ðîäñòâåííèêà…

— Íà îñíîâàíèè êåíèéñêîãî ñâèäåòåëüñòâà î ðîæäåíèè âû óòâåðæäàåòå, ÷òî ïðåçèäåíò ÑØÀ Îáàìà íå ÿâëÿåòñÿ ëåãèòèìíûì ðóêîâîäèòåëåì ãîñóäàðñòâà, — ïî÷åìó?

— Äàæå âíå çàâèñèìîñòè îò ñâèäåòåëüñòâà î ðîæäåíèè Îáàìà íå ìîæåò ÿâëÿòüñÿ çàêîííûì ïðåçèäåíòîì è âåðõîâíûì ãëàâíîêîìàíäóþùèì Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ. Çàêîí ãëàñèò: ÷òîáû ïðåòåíäîâàòü íà äîëæíîñòü ïðåçèäåíòà ÑØÀ è âåðõîâíîãî ãëàâíîêîìàíäóþùåãî, íóæíî ÿâëÿòüñÿ “natural born citizen” — ÷åëîâåêîì, ðîäèâøèìñÿ â ÑØÀ, è èìåòü ðîäèòåëåé — êîðåííûõ ãðàæäàí ñòðàíû. Òàêîé çàêîí áûë ïðèíÿò äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ó ïðåçèäåíòà íèêîãäà íå áûëî íèêàêèõ ñâÿçåé ñ äðóãèìè ñòðàíàìè.

Ïðîáëåìà Îáàìû â òîì, ÷òî åãî îòåö íèêîãäà íå áûë ãðàæäàíèíîì Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ. Êîãäà ðîäèëñÿ Áàðàê Îáàìà, òîò èìåë âñåãî ëèøü ñòóäåí÷åñêóþ âèçó èç Êåíèè.  òî âðåìÿ Êåíèÿ ñ÷èòàëàñü êîëîíèåé Âåëèêîáðèòàíèè, è ïðè ðîæäåíèè Îáàìà, åñòåñòâåííî, ïîëó÷èë áðèòàíñêîå ãðàæäàíñòâî. À ÷åðåç äâà ãîäà, â 1963 ãîäó, ñòðàíà ïîëó÷èëà íåçàâèñèìîñòü, è Îáàìà ñòàë ãðàæäàíèíîì Êåíèè.

Ïîçæå, êîãäà åìó áûëî ïðèìåðíî ïÿòü ëåò, ìàòü Áàðàêà âûøëà çàìóæ âòîðîé ðàç, è âñÿ ñåìüÿ ýìèãðèðîâàëà â Èíäîíåçèþ. Îáàìà ñòàë ãðàæäàíèíîì Èíäîíåçèè. Åñëè èñõîäèòü ëèøü èç ýòèõ ôàêòîâ, îí íå èìååò ïðàâà çàíèìàòü âûñøèé ãîñóäàðñòâåííûé ïîñò, à âåäü ó íåãî èìåëîñü åùå è ïîääàíñòâî òðåõ äðóãèõ ñòðàí!

— Ïðåäïîëîæèì, âñå, ÷òî âû ðàññêàçûâàåòå, ñîîòâåòñòâóåò äåéñòâèòåëüíîñòè, íî íå ñòàíåòå æå âû îòðèöàòü, ÷òî, ïîëó÷èâ ïðè ñîâåðøåííîëåòèè ïàñïîðò, Îáàìà ñòàë çàêîííûì ãðàæäàíèíîì ÑØÀ?

— Âû ìîæåòå áûòü ðÿäîâûì ãðàæäàíèíîì Àìåðèêè è äàæå èìåòü âòîðîå ãðàæäàíñòâî, íàïðèìåð Êåíèè èëè Èíäîíåçèè. Íî âû íå ìîæåòå çàíÿòü ïîñò ïðåçèäåíòà, åñëè ñòàëè ãðàæäàíèíîì ÑØÀ òîëüêî ïðè ñîâåðøåííîëåòèè. Ïîâòîðþñü, ïðåçèäåíòîì ìîæíî ñòàòü ëèøü â ñëó÷àå, åñëè â ìîìåíò ðîæäåíèÿ îáà âàøèõ ðîäèòåëÿ — è ìàòü, è îòåö — áûëè ãðàæäàíàìè Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ Àìåðèêè è íèêàêèõ èíûõ ñòðàí. Ïîäîáíîå óñëîâèå ÿâëÿëîñü ïðèíöèïèàëüíûì äëÿ îñíîâàòåëåé ñòðàíû, àâòîðîâ íàøåé Êîíñòèòóöèè.

Ãàâàéñêèé îðèãèíàë
— À êàê æå áûòü ñ êîïèåé ñâèäåòåëüñòâà î ðîæäåíèè, êîòîðóþ ïðîäåìîíñòðèðîâàë Áàðàê Îáàìà, âåäü òàì ÷åðíûì ïî áåëîìó óêàçàíî ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ — øòàò Ãàâàéè, ÑØÀ?

— Ýòî íå îðèãèíàëüíîå ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè. À ëèøü óêîðî÷åííàÿ êîïèÿ, ïîëó÷åííàÿ çà ãîä äî âûáîðîâ. Îáðàòèòå âíèìàíèå: óêîðî÷åííîå ñâèäåòåëüñòâî íå äàåò íèêàêîé äîïîëíèòåëüíîé èíôîðìàöèè.  íåì íåò íàçâàíèÿ áîëüíèöû, íåò èìåíè âðà÷à, ïðèíèìàâøåãî ðîäû, è íåò íèêàêèõ ïîäïèñåé. Çàêîí øòàòà Ãàâàéè ðàçðåøàåò äåòÿì, ðîäèâøèìñÿ â äðóãèõ ñòðàíàõ, íî ó êîòîðûõ ðîäèòåëè ÿâëÿëèñü ðåçèäåíòàìè Ãàâàéåâ, ïîëó÷èòü ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè. Ê ñëîâó, åãî ìàòü ïðîæèëà òàì âñåãî ãîä.

Áîëåå òîãî, Ãàâàéè ðàçðåøàþò ïîëó÷èòü ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè íå òîëüêî ïðè ïîäà÷å âûïèñêè î ðîæäåíèè èç áîëüíèöû, íî äàæå ïðè ïðåäîñòàâëåíèè ïðîñòîãî ïèñüìà îò îäíîãî èç ðîäèòåëåé. È â ýòîì — ïðîáëåìà.

Ïî÷åìó äî ñèõ ïîð èçáðàííûé ïðåçèäåíò ÑØÀ îòêàçûâàåòñÿ ïîêàçàòü îðèãèíàë äîêóìåíòà? À íàøå êîíñòèòóöèîííîå ïðàâî — çíàòü, êàê èì áûëà ïîëó÷åíà êîïèÿ ñâèäåòåëüñòâà î ðîæäåíèè.

Âåäü åñëè áû Îáàìà äåéñòâèòåëüíî áûë ðîæäåí â áîëüíèöå íà Ãàâàéÿõ, òî ñ ïîëó÷åíèåì îðèãèíàëà ó íåãî íå äîëæíî áûòü íèêàêîé ïðîáëåìû! Íàñòîÿùåå ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè íàõîäèòñÿ â àðõèâå ìèíèñòåðñòâà çäðàâîîõðàíåíèÿ øòàòà. Îíî äîëæíî áûòü íàïå÷àòàíî èìåííî íà ìàøèíêå, à íå êàê ïðåäñòàâëåííàÿ âñåì êîïèÿ, èçãîòîâëåííàÿ íà êîìïüþòåðå.  òå ãîäû ñïðàâêè ïå÷àòàëèñü èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî íà ìàøèíêå. Êðîìå òîãî, ñâèäåòåëüñòâî äîëæíî âêëþ÷àòü íàçâàíèå áîëüíèöû, èìÿ âðà÷à, ïîäïèñè. È â áîëüíèöå òàêæå äîëæíà áûòü áîëüøàÿ ïàïêà ñ èíôîðìàöèåé î ðîæåíèöå è ìëàäåíöå.

Åñëè æå îí äî ñèõ ïîð íå ìîæåò ïðåäñòàâèòü òàêèå äîêóìåíòû, çíà÷èò, èìåþùååñÿ ó íåãî ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè îí ïîëó÷èë òîëüêî áëàãîäàðÿ òîìó, ÷òî åãî ìàòü ïðîñòî íàïèñàëà â ìèíèñòåðñòâî çäðàâîîõðàíåíèÿ, ÷òî îí ðîäèëñÿ íà Ãàâàéÿõ, è íå ïðåäñòàâèëà íèêàêèõ ïîäòâåðæäàþùèõ äîêóìåíòîâ. Âåäü â ñâîå âðåìÿ åãî ìàòåðè áûëî âûãîäíî íàïèñàòü òàêîå ïèñüìî, óòâåðæäàÿ, ÷òî åå ñûí ðîäèëñÿ â ÑØÀ, äàæå åñëè îí íà ñàìîì äåëå ðîäèëñÿ â Êåíèè…

— …Ïîòîìó ÷òî îíà íà ìîìåíò áåðåìåííîñòè áûëà íåñîâåðøåííîëåòíåé?

— Äà.

— Ñêîëüêî åé áûëî òîãäà ëåò?

— Ñåìíàäöàòü.

— È â òî âðåìÿ ó íåå åùå íå áûëî ïàñïîðòà ãðàæäàíêè ÑØÀ?

— Êîãäà ðîäèëñÿ Áàðàê Îáàìà, äåéñòâîâàë èììèãðàöèîííûé çàêîí, ïðèíÿòûé â 1951 ãîäó.  íåì ãîâîðèëîñü, ÷òî åñëè ðåáåíîê ðîäèëñÿ âíå Àìåðèêè è ó íåãî òîëüêî îäèí ðîäèòåëü ÿâëÿåòñÿ àìåðèêàíöåì, à âòîðîé — èíîñòðàíåö, çíà÷èò, ðîäèòåëþ, êîòîðûé ÿâëÿåòñÿ àìåðèêàíöåì, äîëæíî áûòü ïî ìåíüøåé ìåðå 19 ëåò, ÷òîáû ðåáåíîê òóò æå ïîëó÷èë àìåðèêàíñêîå ãðàæäàíñòâî. À íà ìîìåíò ðîæäåíèÿ Áàðàêà åé òîëüêî èñïîëíèëîñü 18.

 ëþáîì ñëó÷àå Îáàìà íå ìîã ñðàçó æå ïîëó÷èòü ãðàæäàíñòâî. Ê òîìó æå, åñëè ðåáåíîê ðîäèëñÿ çà ãðàíèöåé, åãî ìàòü îáÿçàíà áûëà ïîäàâàòü ïðîøåíèå â ìèíèñòåðñòâî íàòóðàëèçàöèè è àáñîðáöèè, ïðîéòè äëèòåëüíóþ áþðîêðàòè÷åñêóþ ïðîöåäóðó. Èñõîäÿ èç ýòîãî, íàìíîãî ïðîùå, ëåã÷å, óäîáíåå è âûãîäíåå áûëî íàïèñàòü, ÷òî Îáàìà-ìëàäøèé ðîäèëñÿ íà Ãàâàéÿõ, à ïðîùå ãîâîðÿ, îáìàíóòü âëàñòè.

— Êàê æå òîãäà, ïî-âàøåìó, âûãëÿäèò èñòîðèÿ ïîÿâëåíèÿ Áàðàêà Îáàìû â Àìåðèêå?

— Íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíèìàþ, åãî ìàòü âåðíóëàñü â Àìåðèêó â êîíöå àâãóñòà 1961 ãîäà, ïîòîìó ÷òî â ýòî âðåìÿ îíà çàïèñàëàñü ñòóäåíòêîé â óíèâåðñèòåò â øòàòå Âàøèíãòîí.

— Åé óæå áûëî 19 ëåò?

— Íåò åùå, ó íåå äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ â íîÿáðå.

— À Áàðàê Îáàìà ðîäèëñÿ â íà÷àëå àâãóñòà?

— Äà. Íî îíà ïðèåõàëà â êîíöå àâãóñòà è åùå íå ìîãëà åìó äàòü ãðàæäàíñòâî, åñëè îí ðîäèëñÿ â Ìîìáàñå. Âåäü åãî îòåö áûë èíîñòðàíöåì, à ìàòåðè åùå íå áûëî 19 ëåò.  ñëó÷àå æå åñëè â ïèñüìå â ìèíèñòåðñòâî çäðàâîîõðàíåíèÿ îíà ïîïðîñòó íàâðàëà, ÷òî åå ñûí ðîäèëñÿ íà Ãàâàéÿõ, òî, òàêèì îáðàçîì, îíà ìîãëà ñðàçó æå ïîëó÷àòü ñîöèàëüíîå ïîñîáèå êàê ìàòü–îäèíî÷êà. È îíà äåéñòâèòåëüíî ìíîãî ëåò ïîëó÷àëà òàêîå ïîñîáèå. Êðîìå òîãî, îíà íå äîëæíà áûëà ïðîõîäèòü äëèòåëüíóþ ïðîöåäóðó àáñîðáöèè, íå íóæíî áûëî ïëàòèòü àäâîêàòó çà ïîäãîòîâêó äîêóìåíòîâ äëÿ íàòóðàëèçàöèè è òàê äàëåå. È, íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíèìàþ, ýòî òî, ÷òî îíà ñäåëàëà.

“Òî, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã ýòîãî äåëà, òðóäíî íàçâàòü òèøèíîé”

— Êàê ê âàøåìó ðàññëåäîâàíèþ îòíîñÿòñÿ èçáèðàòåëè? Âåäü â áîëüøèíñòâå Àìåðèêà ãîëîñîâàëà çà Îáàìó?

— Íåäàâíî êîìïàíèÿ “Àìåðèêàí Îí-Ëàéí” ïðîâåëà îïðîñ îáùåñòâåííîãî ìíåíèÿ. È 85% îïðîøåííûõ çàÿâèëè, ÷òî ñîãëàñíû ñ òåì, ÷òî äî âûáîðîâ äîêóìåíòû Áàðàêà Îáàìû íå ïðîâåðèëè äîëæíûì îáðàçîì è èõ íåîáõîäèìî èçó÷èòü çàíîâî. Îñîáåííî ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè, êîòîðîå ÿêîáû íàõîäèòñÿ íà Ãàâàéÿõ è êîòîðîå îí îòêàçûâàåòñÿ ïîêàçàòü.

— Îäíàêî â òàêîì ñëó÷àå ñîâåðøåííî íåïîíÿòíà òèøèíà â àìåðèêàíñêîì îáùåñòâå: ãäå æå äåìîíñòðàöèè, ïèêåòû, àêöèè ïðîòåñòà?

— Òî, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âîêðóã ýòîãî äåëà, òðóäíî íàçâàòü òèøèíîé. Êî ìíå îáðàòèëèñü óæå ïðåäñòàâèòåëè áîëåå 200 ãàçåò, òåëåêîìïàíèé è ðàäèîñòàíöèé ñî âñåãî ìèðà. È ìíîæåñòâî â ñàìîé Àìåðèêå. Íåñìîòðÿ íà òî ÷òî îñíîâíûå òåëåâèçèîííûå êàíàëû åùå áîÿòñÿ îá ýòîì ãîâîðèòü, íî ñèòóàöèÿ âñå áîëüøå ðàñêðó÷èâàåòñÿ â îáùåñòâå èçíóòðè.

— Íî âû âåäü àäâîêàò, è âàøà ðàáîòà — âûñòóïàòü ïðåæäå âñåãî â ñóäå, à íå ïåðåä ÑÌÈ, è ðåøàòü ïîäîáíûå ñïîðû â ñóäåáíîì ïîðÿäêå…

— Ýòî òàê. Ïî äàííîìó âîïðîñó ÿ ïðåäñòàâëÿþ íåñêîëüêî èñêîâ â ðàçíûõ øòàòàõ Àìåðèêè. Îäèí èç íèõ ÿ óæå âûèãðàëà — â øòàòå Äæîðäæèÿ. ß ïîäàâàëà åãî îò èìåíè áîåâîãî îôèöåðà, ìàéîðà Ñòåôàíà Ôðåäåðèêà Êóêà. Åãî äîëæíû áûëè ïîñëàòü â Àôãàíèñòàí, íî ìîé êëèåíò çàÿâèë, ÷òî íå ãîòîâ âûïîëíÿòü ïðèêàçû âåðõîâíîãî ãëàâíîêîìàíäóþùåãî, ïîêà íå áóäåò ðåøåí âîïðîñ î åãî ëåãèòèìíîñòè. Âåäü â äàëüíåéøåì ýòè ïðèêàçû ìîãóò áûòü ïðèçíàíû íåçàêîííûìè. ß îáðàòèëàñü â ñóä ñ ïðîñüáîé îòëîæèòü ìîáèëèçàöèþ è îòïðàâêó ìàéîðà â Àôãàíèñòàí äî ìîìåíòà, ïîêà âîïðîñ î ëåãèòèìèçàöèè âåðõîâíîãî ãëàâíîêîìàíäóþùåãî íå áóäåò ðåøåí.

— È êàê æå àðìèÿ îòðåàãèðîâàëà íà ïîñòóïîê îôèöåðà è âàøå òðåáîâàíèå?

— Îíà îòìåíèëà ìîáèëèçàöèþ. È ñêàçàëà: î'êåé, â òàêîì ñëó÷àå îí âîîáùå íå äîëæåí èäòè â Àôãàíèñòàí, ïóñòü îñòàåòñÿ äîìà…

Íàø ïðîöåññ âûçâàë â Àìåðèêå íàñòîÿùèé âçðûâ. Êîãäà ìû ïîêèäàëè çàë ñóäà, íàñ âñòðå÷àëè òîëïû ðåïîðòåðîâ. Íàñêîëüêî ÿ çíàþ, åùå íèêîãäà â èñòîðèè Àìåðèêè íå áûëî ñèòóàöèè, ÷òîáû àðìèÿ îòìåíèëà ïðèêàç î äåìîáèëèçàöèè, ïîñêîëüêó îêàçàëàñü íå â ñîñòîÿíèè äàòü èíôîðìàöèþ î ëåãèòèìíîñòè ñâîåãî ãëàâíîêîìàíäóþùåãî è äåéñòâóþùåãî ïðåçèäåíòà.

— Âû óâåðåíû, ÷òî äàííûå è äîêóìåíòû, íàõîäÿùèåñÿ â âàøåì ðàñïîðÿæåíèè è íà êîòîðûå âû ññûëàåòåñü, — ïîäëèííûå? Òî æå êåíèéñêîå ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè Îáàìû êòî-íèáóäü ïðîâåðÿë?

— ×òîáû èçáåæàòü ïîäîáíûõ âîïðîñîâ, ÿ ïðåäîñòàâèëà ñâèäåòåëüñòâî â ñóä è ïîïðîñèëà ñóäüþ Äýáè Î'Êàðòåð, ïðåäñåäàòåëüñòâóþùóþ íà ïðîöåññå, â êîòîðîì ÿ ïðåäñòàâëÿþ áîëåå ïÿòèäåñÿòè âîåííîñëóæàùèõ àðìèè ÑØÀ, à òàêæå áûâøåãî ïîñëà â ÎÎÍ è äðóãèõ óâàæàåìûõ ãðàæäàí, äàòü óêàçàíèå ãîññåêðåòàðþ Õèëëàðè Êëèíòîí, ìèíèñòðó îáîðîíû Ðîáåðòó Ãåéòñó è ïîñîëüñòâó ÑØÀ â Êåíèè ïðîâåðèòü äîêóìåíò äëÿ óñòàíîâëåíèÿ èñòèíû.

“Óìàòûâàéòå îáðàòíî â Ðîññèþ!”

— Âû ìîæåòå îáúÿñíèòü, ïî÷åìó Îáàìó äîïóñòèëè ê âûáîðàì ïðåçèäåíòà è íå ïðîâåëè ïðîöåäóðó ïðîâåðêè äîêóìåíòîâ äî îãëàøåíèÿ èõ ðåçóëüòàòîâ?

— Íà ìîé âçãëÿä, îäíà èç ïðè÷èí ñëó÷èâøåãîñÿ — ïðåäâûáîðíàÿ àòìîñôåðà. Êàê òîëüêî êòî áû òî íè áûëî îòêðûâàë ðîò è îñìåëèâàëñÿ çàäàòü âîïðîñ, Îáàìà è åãî ñòîðîííèêè ïðîñòî íàêèäûâàëèñü íà îïïîíåíòîâ, íàçûâàÿ èõ áåëûìè ðàñèñòàìè. È â îáùåì-òî ìåíÿ òîæå îíè îáúÿâèëè “áåëîé ðàñèñòêîé”. Êðîìå òîãî, ëþäè ïðîñòî áîÿëèñü. Âñåì èçâåñòíî: Îáàìà ïðèøåë èç ×èêàãî. À ×èêàãî åùå ñ âðåìåí Àëü Êàïîíå — ãîðîä, ãäå ìàôèÿ ÿâëÿåòñÿ öàðåì è áîãîì.

— Âàì óãðîæàëè?

— Äà. Ïî ýëåêòðîííîé ïî÷òå ÿ ïîëó÷èëà ñîîáùåíèÿ.  îäíîì ìíå íàïèñàëè: “Âû çëàÿ ðóññêàÿ æåíùèíà, âàñ íóæíî ïîâåñèòü! Óìàòûâàéòå îáðàòíî â Ðîññèþ!”  äðóãîì: “Âàñ íóæíî ðàññòðåëÿòü! ß ãîòîâ âàñ ñàì ðàññòðåëÿòü è ñæå÷ü âàøå òåëî, ÷òîáû âåñü ìèð ýòî óâèäåë!” À âñêîðå ïîñëå ýòîãî ó ìåíÿ ñëó÷èëàñü ïðîáëåìà ñ ìàøèíîé. ß ïîøëà ê ìåõàíèêó, îí îòêðûë êàïîò è óâèäåë, ÷òî êòî-òî ïåðåêëþ÷èë øëàíã âûõëîïíûõ ãàçîâ. Âìåñòî òîãî ÷òîáû âûõîäèòü èç ìàøèíû, âûõëîïíûå ãàçû øëè îáðàòíî ê äâèãàòåëþ. Äâèãàòåëü ñèëüíî ïåðåãðåâàëñÿ. Íå äàé áîã, ìàøèíà ìîãëà âçîðâàòüñÿ âìåñòå ñî ìíîé, ñ ìîèìè òðåìÿ äåòüìè. Ìíå îáúÿñíèëè: ýòè âûõëîïíûå ãàçû î÷åíü âçðûâîîïàñíûå. ß ïîäàëà çàÿâëåíèÿ â ÔÁÐ è ïîëèöèþ, íî îò íèõ ïîêà åùå íè÷åãî íå ñëûøíî.

— Ãîâîðÿò, âñåãî çà ãîä âû è âàøè êëèåíòû ñîáðàëè íà íûíåøíåãî ïðåçèäåíòà ÑØÀ îãðîìíîå êîëè÷åñòâî êîìïðîìàòà. Êàêîâà äàëüíåéøàÿ ñóäüáà ñêàíäàëüíîãî äîñüå è ÷òî îíî âêëþ÷àåò?

— Âñå äîêóìåíòû ÿ óæå ïåðåäàëà â ìèíèñòåðñòâî þñòèöèè. ×òîáû âû ïîíÿëè, î ÷åì èäåò ðå÷ü, ê íàøåé áåñåäå ÿ ïðèãîòîâèëà íåñêîëüêî äîêóìåíòîâ — ïîæàëóéñòà, ñìîòðèòå.

Ýòî ðåãèñòðàöèÿ Îáàìû ó÷åíèêîì øêîëû â Èíäîíåçèè. Çäåñü óêàçàíî, ÷òî òîãäà îí îôèöèàëüíî íîñèë ôàìèëèþ ñâîåãî îò÷èìà — Ñîèòîðî, à åãî øêîëüíîå èìÿ — Áåé Ñîèòîðî. Êðîìå òîãî, çäåñü óêàçàíî ãðàæäàíñòâî — èíäîíåçèéñêîå. È âåðîèñïîâåäàíèå — èñëàì. Íî Îáàìà, êîíå÷íî, îòðèöàåò âñå ýòè ôàêòû. Âìåñòå ñ äîñüå ÿ ïåðåäàëà øêîëüíóþ âûïèñêó â ìèíèñòåðñòâî þñòèöèè. À ñðàçó æå ïîñëå íåå ïðèëîæèëà êîïèþ ðåãèñòðàöèè àäâîêàòñêîé ëèöåíçèè Áàðàêà Îáàìû àäâîêàòîì â øòàòå Èëëèíîéñ.

Òàì ïîä ïðèñÿãîé ó íåãî ñïðîñèëè: êàêîâî âàøå èìÿ? Îí îòâåòèë: Áàðàê Õóñåéí Îáàìà. Ñëåäóþùèé âîïðîñ çâó÷àë òàê: áûëè ëè ó âàñ êàêèå-òî äðóãèå èìåíà, êðîìå ýòîãî? Îí îòâåòèë: íåò.

Ìÿãêî ãîâîðÿ, ñêàçàë íåïðàâäó. Â øêîëüíîì äîêóìåíòå îí øåë ïîä èìåíåì Áåðè (Áåé) Ñîèòîðî. Åñòü ìíîãî âåùåé, êîòîðûå ñäåëàë Îáàìà è êîòîðûå ÿâëÿþòñÿ íåçàêîííûìè, — çà íèõ ïðîñòûå ëþäè ñèäÿò äîëãèå ãîäû â òþðüìå. Íî åìó ýòî ïîêà ñõîäèò ñ ðóê.

Êðîìå òîãî, â äîñüå åñòü ïèñüìî îò Ñýíäðþ Ëýíñè Ëàéíñ — îäíîãî èç ñàìûõ áîëüøèõ ýêñïåðòîâ ïî äîêóìåíòàì. Èçó÷èâ ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè, âûñòàâëåííîå Îáàìîé â èíòåðíåòå, îíà óòâåðæäàåò, ÷òî åãî íåëüçÿ ñ÷èòàòü ëåãèòèìíûì. Íåîáõîäèìî ïðîàíàëèçèðîâàòü îðèãèíàëüíîå ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè, êîòîðîå íàõîäèòñÿ íà Ãàâàéÿõ, ÷òîáû çíàòü òî÷íî, ãäå è êîãäà îí ðîäèëñÿ. Áîëåå òîãî, ÿ ïðåäñòàâèëà â ìèíèñòåðñòâî þñòèöèè åùå îäèí î÷åíü âàæíûé äîêóìåíò. Ïî-ðóññêè íàçîâåì åãî ïðèïèñíûì ñâèäåòåëüñòâîì èç âîåíêîìàòà.  Àìåðèêå âû íå èìååòå ïðàâà ðàáîòàòü â ïðàâèòåëüñòâå, åñëè â ñâîå âðåìÿ íå çàðåãèñòðèðîâàëèñü â âîåíêîìàòå. Ýòî ïèñüìî îò ôåäåðàëüíîãî àãåíòà Ñòèâåíà Êîôìàíà èç øòàòà Òåõàñ, êîòîðûé óêàçàë, ÷òî â äîêóìåíòå, ïðåäñòàâëåííîì Îáàìîé, âûÿâëåíû ÿâíûå ïîääåëêè. Íàïðèìåð, ïå÷àòü. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ, òàêîé ïå÷àòè â òîì ãîäó, êîãäà Îáàìà óòâåðæäàåò, ÷òî âñòàë íà ó÷åò â âîåíêîìàòå, íå ñóùåñòâîâàëî.

 îðèãèíàëå êàæäàÿ ñïðàâêà âíèçó èìååò ìàëåíüêèìè áóêâàìè íàçâàíèå ñïðàâêè è íîìåð ôîðìû. Íàïðèìåð, â ýòîì ãîäó åñòü ñïðàâêà òàêîé-òî ôîðìû, â ñëåäóþùåì ãîäó — äðóãîé. È ýòî áûëà íåïðàâèëüíàÿ ôîðìà äëÿ òîãî ãîäà. Ýòî âîîáùå óìó íåïîñòèæèìî, ÷òî ó íàñ â Áåëîì äîìå ñèäèò ÷åëîâåê, ó êîòîðîãî, ïî ìíåíèþ ñïåöèàëèñòîâ-ýêñïåðòîâ, — ôàëüøèâûå äîêóìåíòû!

— !!!

— Åùå îäèí î÷åíü âàæíûé ìîìåíò ÿ îáíàðóæèëà âìåñòå ñ îïûòíûì ñëåäîâàòåëåì, ïðîðàáîòàâøèì 20 ëåò â Ñêîòëàíä-ßðäå è åùå 15 ëåò â Àìåðèêå.  áàçå äàííûõ â Àìåðèêå, êîòîðûìè ïîëüçóþòñÿ àäâîêàòû è ÷àñòíûå ñëåäîâàòåëè, ó Îáàìû åñòü 140 àäðåñîâ ïî âñåé Àìåðèêå. È êàæäûé àäðåñ ïðèêðåïëåí ê ðàçíûì ñâèäåòåëüñòâàì. Ìû íàøëè 39 ðàçíûõ íîìåðîâ ñâèäåòåëüñòâ, óäîñòîâåðåíèé ëè÷íîñòè.

— Êàê òàêîå ìîæåò áûòü?

— Ýòî ïîääåëêè.  áàçàõ äàííûõ ñåãîäíÿ çàïèñàíî 140 ðàçíûõ àäðåñîâ è 39 ðàçíûõ íîìåðîâ óäîñòîâåðåíèé ëè÷íîñòè, âûïèñàííûõ íà èìÿ Áàðàêà Õóñåéíà Îáàìû.

— Ìîæåò, ýòî ïðîñòî îäíîôàìèëüöû?

— Íåò, ìû óñòàíîâèëè: â Àìåðèêå áîëüøå íåò äðóãèõ ãðàæäàí, íîñÿùèõ èìÿ Áàðàê Õóñåéí Îáàìà.

— Â ýòèõ ñâèäåòåëüñòâàõ è ãîä ðîæäåíèÿ ñîâïàäàåò?

— Ìû îáíàðóæèëè óäèâèòåëüíûé ôàêò. Ïî àäðåñó â ãîðîäå Ñàìàäàë, ãäå îí æèë â øòàòå Ìàññà÷óñåòñ, êîãäà ó÷èëñÿ â Ãàðâàðäå, ïèøåòñÿ, ÷òî Áàðàê Õóñåéí Îáàìà èìååò òàêîå-òî óäîñòîâåðåíèå ëè÷íîñòè…

À â Àìåðèêå óäîñòîâåðåíèå ëè÷íîñòè èìååò òðè ÷àñòè. È â ïåðâîé ÷àñòè ïåðâûå òðè öèôðû îáîçíà÷àþò øòàò. È âûÿñíèëîñü, ÷òî ýòî óäîñòîâåðåíèå ëè÷íîñòè áûëî âûäàíî â øòàòå Êîííåêòèêóò.

À Îáàìà íèêîãäà íå æèë â ýòîì øòàòå! Áîëåå òîãî — ñàìûé èíòåðåñíûé ìîìåíò.  áàçå äàííûõ óêàçàíî, ÷òî ýòî óäîñòîâåðåíèå ëè÷íîñòè áûëî âûäàíî ÷åëîâåêó, ðîäèâøåìóñÿ â 1890 ãîäó. Òî åñòü Îáàìå ñåãîäíÿ äîëæíî áûëî èñïîëíèòüñÿ 119 ëåò!

— Ìîæåò, âû ïðîñòî îøèáëèñü?

— Ñåãîäíÿ ìîãó îáúÿñíèòü, ïî÷åìó òàê ïðîèçîøëî. ß ïðîâåëà ðàññëåäîâàíèå è âûÿñíèëà, ÷òî åãî áàáóøêà Ìàäëåí Ïåéí Äàíõåí áûëà âîëîíòåðîì. Èíòåðåñíî, ãäå æå ýòà æåíùèíà ðåøèëà ïîðàáîòàòü âîëîíòåðîì?  îòäåëå ñóäà, çàíèìàþùåãîñÿ äåëàìè è íàñëåäñòâàìè óìåðøèõ. Îíè ïðîâåðÿþò, åñòü ëè íàñëåäíèêè, è äåëÿò ìåæäó íèìè íàñëåäñòâî.

Òàêèì îáðàçîì, ìû óñòàíîâèëè, ÷òî èìåííî òàì îíà ìîãëà íàéòè âîò ýòî óäîñòîâåðåíèå ëè÷íîñòè ÷åëîâåêà, êîòîðûé æèë â øòàòå Êîííåêòèêóò, ðîäèëñÿ â 1890 ãîäó è â êàêîé-òî ìîìåíò ïåðååõàë íà Ãàâàéè. È, êàê âèäíî, ó íåãî íå áûëî ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. È îíà ìîãëà âçÿòü ýòîò íîìåð è èñïîëüçîâàòü åãî äëÿ Áàðàêà Îáàìû.

Èíòåðåñíî, ÷òî ýòîò íîìåð óäîñòîâåðåíèÿ ëè÷íîñòè ôèãóðèðóåò è â øòàòå Ìàññà÷óñåòñ, ãäå îí æèë, êîãäà ó÷èëñÿ â Ãàðâàðäå, è â ×èêàãî, â øòàòå Èëëèíîéñ, êîãäà áûë ñåíàòîðîì. È äàæå â Âàøèíãòîíå!

— Âû ïðåäïîëàãàåòå, ÷òî áàáóøêà Îáàìû ìîãëà áûòü èìåííî òåì ÷åëîâåêîì, êîòîðûé çíàë òàéíó ðîæäåíèÿ íûíåøíåãî ïðåçèäåíòà ÑØÀ?

— Äà.

— ß íå ÿâëÿþñü ñòîðîííèêîì êîíñïèðîëîãèè, íî ïîñëå òîãî, ÷òî âû ñêàçàëè, íåëüçÿ íå îáðàòèòü âíèìàíèå íà ñòðàííûå îáñòîÿòåëüñòâà åå ñìåðòè, ñëó÷èâøåéñÿ… çà äåíü äî âûáîðîâ.

— Äà-äà, ýòî âîîáùå î÷åíü ñòðàííàÿ ñèòóàöèÿ. Ïåðâîé è åäèíñòâåííîé èíôîðìàöèåé î áîëåçíè áàáóøêè, êîòîðóþ ÿ íàøëà, áûëî ñîîáùåíèå ðåïîðòåðà îäíîé èç ãàçåò øòàòà Âàøèíãòîí. Íåçàäîëãî äî âûáîðîâ îí èíòåðâüþèðîâàë åå áðàòà — ×àðëüçà Ïåéíà, äÿäþ Îáàìû. ×àðëüç Ïåéí ïðèçíàë, ÷òî åãî ñåñòðà, áàáóøêà Îáàìû, áîëüíà.

Íî êîãäà êîððåñïîíäåíò ñïðîñèë, ÷åì îíà áîëüíà, îí ðàññêàçàë, ÷òî îíà óïàëà è ñëîìàëà áåäðî. È íàõîäèòñÿ â áîëüíèöå ñî ñëîìàííûì áåäðîì. Êðîìå òîãî, ó íåå ñòàð÷åñêèé îñòåîïîðîç è îíà ëå÷èòñÿ.

Ïîñëå ýòîãî Îáàìà ïîåõàë åå íàâåñòèòü ïî ïîâîäó ñëîìàííîãî áåäðà. Îäíàêî áóêâàëüíî çà äåíü äî âûáîðîâ âäðóã çàÿâèëè, ÷òî îíà âäðóã óìåðëà. Îò… ðàêà. À äî ýòîãî âîîáùå íèêòî íèêîãäà íå ñëûøàë î òîì, ÷òîáû åãî áàáóøêà áûëà áîëüíà ðàêîì.

È âû çíàåòå, â ýòîì äåëå ñóùåñòâóåò åùå îäèí ñòðàííûé ìîìåíò. Êîãäà áàáóøêà óìåðëà, ïîñëå åå ñìåðòè íå îñòàëîñü íèêàêèõ äîêóìåíòîâ.

Îáû÷íî, êîãäà ÷åëîâåê óìèðàåò, åñòü ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ñìåðòè èç áîëüíèöû, ïîäïèñàííîå âðà÷îì, åñòü çàêëþ÷åíèå ïàòîëîãîàíàòîìà.  åå ñëó÷àå íè÷åãî íå îáíàðóæåíî. Íåò äàæå ìîãèëû. È åñëè ñåãîäíÿ êòî-òî çàõî÷åò óçíàòü íàñòîÿùóþ ïðè÷èíó åå ñìåðòè, îí íå ñìîæåò. Ïîòîìó ÷òî åå òåëî êðåìèðîâàëè, à ïðàõ Áàðàê Îáàìà ðàññûïàë â ìîðå.

— Ñíà÷àëà ó Áàðàêà Îáàìû ïðîïàëî ñâèäåòåëüñòâî î ðîæäåíèè, òåïåðü âîò äîêóìåíòû î ñìåðòè áàáóøêè… Íî âåäü èçâåñòíî, ÷òî ó ëþáîãî ïàöèåíòà, ïîñòóïàþùåãî â àìåðèêàíñêóþ êëèíèêó, ïðåæäå âñåãî áåðóò àíàëèçû. È íè îäèí âðà÷ íå ïîäîéäåò ê áîëüíîìó è íå íàçíà÷èò ëå÷åíèå, ïîêà íå áóäåò èìåòü íà ðóêàõ ðåçóëüòàòû ìåäèöèíñêîãî èññëåäîâàíèÿ.

— Íè÷åãî íåò. È ñàìîå èíòåðåñíîå: îíà óìåðëà â íîÿáðå ìåñÿöå, íî Îáàìà äàæå íå áûë íà ïîõîðîíàõ, îí ïîÿâèëñÿ ãäå-òî â ÿíâàðå ìåñÿöå, êîãäà ïðèåõàë íà Ãàâàéè â îòïóñê ñ ñåìüåé, è òîãäà ðàññûïàë ïåïåë â ìîðå. È ýòî âñå, ÷òî áûëî ñäåëàíî.

Òåì áîëåå áàáóøêà îñòàâàëàñü â Àìåðèêå åãî ïîñëåäíåé áëèçêîé ðîäñòâåííèöåé. Åãî ðîäíîé îòåö ïîãèá â àâàðèè ñî âòîðîé ïîïûòêè — â ïåðâûé ðàç îí ïîòåðÿë îáå íîãè, ïîòîì áûëà âòîðàÿ àâàðèÿ... Åãî îò÷èì òîæå óìåð. Åãî ìàòü óìåðëà. Åãî äåäóøêà óìåð. È ñåãîäíÿ íå îñòàëîñü íè îäíîãî ðîäñòâåííèêà, êîòîðûé áû ìîã äàòü ïðàâäèâûå äàííûå î ðîæäåíèè ïðåçèäåíòà ÑØÀ.

“Åñëè áû ìåíÿ ìîãëè â ÷åì-òî îáâèíèòü, òî äàâíî áû óæå ýòî ñäåëàëè”

— Âû ñêàçàëè, ÷òî âñå áëèæàéøèå ðîäñòâåííèêè Îáàìû èëè ïîãèáëè, èëè óìåðëè, íî â Êåíèè æèâóò âîñåìü åãî êðîâíûõ áðàòüåâ è ðîäíàÿ áàáóøêà…

— Ñ åãî êåíèéñêèìè êîðíÿìè ñâÿçàíà èíòåðåñíàÿ èñòîðèÿ. Ïîñëå âûáîðîâ îäèí èç ðåïîðòåðîâ ïîçâîíèë â êåíèéñêîå ïîñîëüñòâî è â èíòåðâüþ ñ ïîñëîì ñïðîñèë: “Áóäåò ëè â Êåíèè, â ãîðîäå, ãäå ðîäèëñÿ ïðåçèäåíò Îáàìà, óñòàíîâëåí êàêîé-íèáóäü ìîíóìåíò?” È òîò îòâåòèë: äà, êîíå÷íî, ìû ýòî ïëàíèðóåì. Òî åñòü â Êåíèè, â îáùåì, èçâåñòíî, ÷òî îí ðîäèëñÿ â ýòîé ñòðàíå.

— Ñêàíäàëû, êàñàþùèåñÿ ëè÷íûõ äîêóìåíòîâ, ïåðåä âûáîðàìè ïðåñëåäîâàëè íå òîëüêî íûíåøíåãî ïðåçèäåíòà. Ãîä íàçàä Êîíäîëèçà Ðàéñ îáúÿâèëà, ÷òî êòî-òî ïûòàëñÿ âîéòè â áàçó äàííûõ ïàñïîðòíîé èíôîðìàöèè ãîñäåïà. Ýòà ïîïûòêà ïðîíèêíîâåíèÿ âêëþ÷àëà ôàéëû è Õèëëàðè Êëèíòîí, è Ìàêêåéíà, è òîãî æå Îáàìû…

— Â îñíîâíîì ëþäè, çàíèìàþùèåñÿ ýòèì âîïðîñîì, äóìàþò, ÷òî öåëüþ áûë èìåííî Îáàìà, à Ìàêêåéí è Õèëëàðè Êëèíòîí — ïðîñòî ïðèêðûòèå.

Ïîçæå â ãàçåòå “Âàøèíãòîí òàéìñ” ðàññêàçûâàëîñü î ðåçóëüòàòàõ ðàññëåäîâàíèÿ. ÔÁÐ áûëè óñòàíîâëåíû òðîå ïîäîçðåâàåìûõ. È îäèí èç íèõ, ëåéòåíàíò Õýë Êåëëåðèñ, 24 ëåò, ñîãëàñèëñÿ ñîòðóäíè÷àòü ñî ñëåäñòâèåì è äàòü âñþ èíôîðìàöèþ, êîòîðàÿ ó íåãî åñòü. Íî ðàññëåäîâàíèå çàøëî â òóïèê — ÷åðåç íåñêîëüêî äíåé ãîñóäàðñòâåííîãî ñâèäåòåëÿ íàøëè ñ ïóëåé â ãîëîâå.

Åùå èíòåðåñíûé ìîìåíò. Íåñêîëüêî ìåñÿöåâ íàçàä â âàøèíãòîíñêîé ïðåññå áûëà ïóáëèêàöèÿ, ãäå ðàññêàçûâàëîñü îá îáëàâå, ïðîâîäèìîé ÔÁÐ â äîìå íåêîåãî Áèâèêà Êàíäðû, â ñâîå âðåìÿ æèâøåãî â Ìîìáàñå, Êåíèÿ.

Ýòîò Áèâèê Êàíäðà ÿâëÿëñÿ… äèðåêòîðîì ñëóæáû êèáåðíåòè÷åñêîé áåçîïàñíîñòè Áàðàêà Îáàìû. À ïîñëå ýòîãî ðåéäà àðåñòîâàëè åãî ïîìîùíèêà, ïî ôàìèëèè Àêåà, òóðêà ïî ïðîèñõîæäåíèþ. Ó íåãî íàøëè ôàëüøèâûå ñâèäåòåëüñòâà î ðîæäåíèè.

Îïÿòü-òàêè ïðîñòî óìó íåïîñòèæèìî: ëþäè, çàíèìàþùèåñÿ êèáåðíåòè÷åñêîé áåçîïàñíîñòüþ ïðåçèäåíòà ÑØÀ, ñâÿçàíû ñ òàêèì êðèìèíàëîì.  äàííûé ìîìåíò ðàññëåäîâàíèå, îòêóäà ó íèõ ôàëüøèâûå ñâèäåòåëüñòâà î ðîæäåíèè, ïðîäîëæàåòñÿ.

— Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, íà Îáàìó ðàáîòàåò öåëàÿ îðãàíèçàöèÿ. Âû çíàåòå, êòî ýòè ëþäè?

— Åñòü îðãàíèçàöèè, åñòü ëþäè. ß íå õî÷ó óòâåðæäàòü òî÷íî. Íî âàì äàì íåñêîëüêî äàííûõ, à äàëüøå âàøè ÷èòàòåëè óæå ñàìè ðåøàò, êàê ðàññòàâèòü òî÷êè. Äî âûáîðîâ áûëî èíòåðâüþ ñ íåêèì Ïåðñè Ñàòîíîì. Ãîñïîäèí Ïåðñè Ñàòîí ÿâëÿåòñÿ àôðîàìåðèêàíöåì è áûâøèì ïðåçèäåíòîì “Áðóêëèí áîðë”.

È â òåëåâèçèîííîì èíòåðâüþ, êîòîðîå âèñåëî äàæå íà YouTube, îí ðàññêàçàë: â ñâîå âðåìÿ ê íåìó îáðàòèëñÿ íåêèé Àëìàíñóð, ðàäèêàëüíûé ìóñóëüìàíèí, î÷åíü èçâåñòíûé â Àìåðèêå. È ïðîñèë åãî íàïèñàòü ïèñüìî-ðåêîìåíäàöèþ â Ãàðâàðäñêèé óíèâåðñèòåò íà þðèäè÷åñêèé ôàêóëüòåò, ÷òîáû òóäà ïðèíÿëè Áàðàêà Îáàìó. È îí ñêàçàë, ÷òî êîðîëåâñêàÿ ñåìüÿ èç Ñàóäîâñêîé Àðàâèè ìàòåðèàëüíî ïîääåðæèâàåò ýòîãî ñòóäåíòà — Áàðàêà Õóñåéíà Îáàìó. Âîò âàì òîëüêî îäèí ôàêò…

— Åñëè ýòî ïðàâäà, ñîâñåì ïî-äðóãîìó îáúÿñíÿåòñÿ ñëó÷àé, ïðîèçîøåäøèé âî âðåìÿ ïåðâîé âñòðå÷è èçáðàííîãî ïðåçèäåíòà ÑØÀ è êîðîëÿ Àáäóëëû, êîãäà Îáàìà âîïðåêè ïðåçèäåíòñêîìó ïðîòîêîëó ïîêëîíèëñÿ ìîíàðõó…

— Âñÿ ñòðàíà áûëà â øîêå, êîãäà ýòî óâèäåëè. Íî, âåðíóâøèñü â Àìåðèêó, îí ñêàçàë, ÷òî ýòî íåïðàâäà, îí ýòîãî íå äåëàë. È âñå àìåðèêàíöû â ñòóïîðå! Êàê æå íå äåëàë — ýòî æå âèäíî íà âèäåî? Îí ãîâîðèò: âû íå òàê ïîñìîòðåëè. Äóìàþ, îí ïðàâ: ó âñåé ñòðàíû, âèäèìî, ïðîáëåìà ñî çðåíèåì, íàì âñåì íóæíû î÷êè.

— Íî, ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû, âñå, ÷òî âû ðàññêàçàëè, — âñåãî ëèøü âåðñèè. Ïîêà íè îäíî èç îáâèíåíèé â àäðåñ Áàðàêà Îáàìû îôèöèàëüíî íå äîêàçàíî. Âû íå áîèòåñü, ÷òî àäâîêàòû Îáàìû îáâèíÿò âàñ â èñêàæåíèè äåéñòâèòåëüíîñòè è âàì íå÷åì áóäåò îòâåòèòü?

— Åñëè áû îíè ìîãëè ìåíÿ â ÷åì-òî îáâèíèòü, òî äàâíî áû óæå ýòî ñäåëàëè. ß âåäó ýòè ñóäû öåëûé ãîä. È ó ìåíÿ óæå 170 êëèåíòîâ. Íî îíè íå â ñèëàõ ìíå çàêðûòü ðîò. Ïîòîìó ÷òî, êàê âèäíî èç ýòîãî èíòåðâüþ, ÿ íå ãîâîðþ: âîò ýòîò ÷åëîâåê âèíîâåí, à ýòîò ÷åëîâåê íåâèíîâåí. ß ïðîñòî äàþ ôàêòû. À ïðîòèâ ôàêòîâ îíè ïîéòè íå ìîãóò.

È îíè íå ÿâëÿþòñÿ ïðîñòî âåðñèåé. Òî, ÷òî Îáàìà íå èìååò ïðàâà áûòü ïðåçèäåíòîì, — áîëüøå ÷åì âåðñèÿ. Ýòî äåéñòâèòåëüíîñòü. Ïðîñòî íàì íóæíî äîæäàòüñÿ ïîñòàíîâëåíèÿ ñóäà. È ïîýòîìó, íà ìîé âçãëÿä, ýòî ïðîñòî äåëî âðåìåíè, êîãäà îí ëèáî ñàì óéäåò, ëèáî åãî çàñòàâÿò óéòè ñ ïîñòà ïðåçèäåíòà.

— Ñóäåáíîå ïðîèçâîäñòâî — ïðîöåññ äëèòåëüíûé, òåì áîëåå, ÿ ïîíèìàþ, âû íà÷àëè ñ ñóäîâ íèçøåé èíñòàíöèè è âàì íàäî åùå äîéòè äî Âåðõîâíîãî ñóäà. À ïî÷åìó áû íå îáðàòèòüñÿ ñðàçó â Âåðõîâíûé ñóä? Âåäü ðå÷ü èäåò î ïåðâîì ëèöå ñòðàíû, âåðõîâíîì ãëàâíîêîìàíäóþùåì.

— Ñóùåñòâóåò ïðîöåäóðà ðàññìîòðåíèÿ ïîäîáíûõ ñóäåáíûõ äåë. Íî äëÿ ïðÿìîãî îáðàùåíèÿ â Âåðõîâíûé ñóä âñå æå ñóùåñòâóåò îäíà âîçìîæíîñòü. ß íàäåþñü, ÷òî âû îá ýòîì íàïèøåòå.

Åñëè ïðåìüåð-ìèíèñòð ëèáî ìèíèñòð èíîñòðàííûõ äåë, ëèáî ïîñîë ëþáîé ñòðàíû ìèðà ñîãëàñèòñÿ áûòü ìîèì êëèåíòîì è ïîäàòü ïðîøåíèå â Âåðõîâíûé ñóä ÑØÀ ñ ïðîñüáîé ïðåäîñòàâèòü èíôîðìàöèþ î òîì, ÿâëÿåòñÿ ëè ïðåçèäåíò ëåãèòèìíûì, òîãäà ìîæíî îáîéòè ñóäû íèçøèõ èíñòàíöèé.

— Ñêëàäûâàåòñÿ èíòåðåñíàÿ ñèòóàöèÿ. Äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû ñäåëàòü ïîäîáíûé øàã, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå, èíîñòðàíöàì íàäî ðóêîâîäñòâîâàòüñÿ òåì, ÷òî îí ïðîâîäèò, ñêàæåì òàê, íåäðóæåëþáíóþ ïîëèòèêó â îòíîøåíèè åãî ñòðàíû. Ñåãîäíÿ, ìåæäó ïðî÷èì, î÷åíü òðóäíî íàéòè ãîñóäàðñòâî, êîòîðîå ñîãëàñèòñÿ ïîéòè íà òàêîé øàã. Îáàìà ïðåäëàãàåò äðóæáó âñåì! Ñïðàøèâàåòñÿ, äëÿ ÷åãî èì ýòî íàäî?!

— Î÷åíü ïðîñòîé ïðèìåð. Íåäàâíî ïðîõîäèëè ïåðåãîâîðû ìåæäó Îáàìîé è Äìèòðèåì Ìåäâåäåâûì ïî ïîâîäó íîâîãî äîãîâîðà î ÿäåðíîì ðàçîðóæåíèè. Åñëè, ñêàæåì, çàâòðà Ðîññèÿ ñîãëàñèòñÿ íà ðàçîðóæåíèå è âäðóã âûÿñíèòñÿ, ÷òî Îáàìà íå ÿâëÿëñÿ çàêîííûì ïðåçèäåíòîì, òî è ñîãëàøåíèÿ íå áóäóò ñ÷èòàòüñÿ çàêîííûìè. Ëèäåðû èíîñòðàííûõ ãîñóäàðñòâ, ïîäïèñûâàÿ ñåãîäíÿ ñîãëàøåíèÿ ñ ÑØÀ, íå çíàþò, ÷òî îíè ïîäïèñûâàþò. À ïàðëàìåíòû ñòðàí, óòâåðæäàþùèå ýòè äîãîâîðà, íå çíàþò, ÷òî îíè ðàòèôèöèðóþò. Äîãîâîð èñòèííîãî ïðåçèäåíòà Àìåðèêè — ëèáî ÷åëîâåêà, êîòîðûé íèêîãäà íå èìåë ïðàâà áûòü ïðåçèäåíòîì è â ëþáîé ìîìåíò åãî ìîãóò ñíÿòü ñ ýòîãî ïîñòà?

È òàêèì îáðàçîì, âñå, ÷òî áûëî ïîäïèñàíî ðàíåå, îêàæåòñÿ ñ òî÷êè çðåíèÿ àìåðèêàíñêîãî çàêîíà íåäåéñòâèòåëüíûì. Òàêèå ïðåöåäåíòû óæå áûëè. Äâóõ ñåíàòîðîâ ñíÿëè, è âñå, ÷òî îíè ðàòèôèöèðîâàëè, âñå, ÷òî îíè ïîäïèñûâàëè, ïðèçíàëè íåäåéñòâèòåëüíûì.

— Âàø ïðîãíîç: ñêîëüêî âðåìåíè ìîæåò çàíÿòü âàøà òÿæáà ñ ïðåçèäåíòîì?

— Î÷åíü òðóäíî îòâåòèòü. Ýòî æ íå çàâèñèò òîëüêî îò ìåíÿ. Ïîñêîëüêó ñóùåñòâóåò î÷åíü ìíîãî ðàçíûõ ôàêòîðîâ. Åñëè ÿ ïîëó÷ó âîçìîæíîñòü îáðàòèòüñÿ ïðÿìî â Âåðõîâíûé ñóä Àìåðèêè, ÿ äóìàþ, ìîæíî áóäåò ðåøèòü â òå÷åíèå îäíîãî ìåñÿöà. Îáû÷íûé ñóä ìîæåò çàíÿòü ïîëãîäà. Åñëè îíè ðåøàò àïåëëèðîâàòü, ýòî ìîæåò çàíÿòü åùå ïîëãîäà. Òî åñòü — ãîä.

ß äóìàþ, ÷òî ýòîò ïðîöåññ, òàê æå, êàê è çíàìåíèòîå “óîòåðãåéòñêîå äåëî”, ìîæåò ñòàòü êàòàëèçàòîðîì òîãî, ÷òî Îáàìà óéäåò â îòñòàâêó. Íî â îòëè÷èå îò èñòîðèè ñ Íèêñîíîì â åãî äåëå åñòü åùå îäèí èíòåðåñíûé ìîìåíò. Òîãäà âèöå-ïðåçèäåíò Íèêñîíà Äæåðàëüä Ôîðä çàíÿë ïîñò ïðåçèäåíòà. Íî â ñëó÷àå ñ Îáàìîé ýòîãî íå ïðîèçîéäåò. Ïîñêîëüêó ýòî ñïåöèôè÷åñêèé þðèäè÷åñêèé ïðîöåññ: åñëè ÷åëîâåê íå ÿâëÿëñÿ ëåãèòèìíûì äî òîãî, êàê åãî èçáðàëè, òî âñå, ÷òî îí äåëàåò, ÿâëÿåòñÿ íåëåãèòèìíûì, è äàæå åãî âûáîð âèöå-ïðåçèäåíòà òîæå ÿâëÿåòñÿ íåëåãèòèìíûì.

È òîãäà âèöå-ïðåçèäåíò Áàéäåí áóäåò òîëüêî â òå÷åíèå ïàðû ìåñÿöåâ âðåìåííûì ïðåçèäåíòîì, ïîêà áóäåò ïðèãîòîâëåíî ãîëîñîâàíèå äëÿ ñïåöèàëüíûõ âûáîðîâ, âî âðåìÿ êîòîðûõ ñòðàíå ïðèäåòñÿ èçáðàòü íîâîãî ïðåçèäåíòà è âèöå-ïðåçèäåíòà.
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