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"Przypadek" (Ñëó÷àé) by Krzysztof Kieslowski

 
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Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 20 2006, 19:28:10     : "Przypadek" (Ñëó÷àé) by Krzysztof Kieslowski

Òóò ïîñìîòðåë íåäàâíî "Ñëó÷àé".....Îòëè÷íûé ôèëüì! Î÷åíü ãëóáîêèé è î÷åíü ïîëüñêèé. Ìàñòåðñêàÿ ðàáîòà ðåæèññ¸ðà, î÷åíü ôèëîñîôñêèé ôèëüì....

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084549/

Witek runs after a train. Three variations follow on how such a seemingly banal incident could influence the rest of Witek's life. One: he catches the train, meets an honest Communist and himself becomes a Party activist. Two: while running for the train he bumps into a railway guard, is attested, brought to trial and sent to unpaid labour in a park where he meets someone from the opposition. He, in turn, becomes a militant member of the opposition. Three: he simply misses the train, meets a girl from his studies, rerns to his interrupted studies, marries the girl and leads a peaceful life as & doctor unwilling to get mixed up in politics. He is sent abroad with his work. In mid-air, the plane he is on explodes.
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: 14.09.2006
: 183

: , 21 2006, 22:17:29     :

Òàê âîò âîïðîñ : ïî÷åìó æå îí ïîãèáàåò èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî â òðåòüåé âåðñèè ôèëüìà? Ñëó÷àé? èëè Ñóäüáà?
Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 21 2006, 22:41:01     :

Ìóðçèëêà ():
Òàê âîò âîïðîñ : ïî÷åìó æå îí ïîãèáàåò èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî â òðåòüåé âåðñèè ôèëüìà? Ñëó÷àé? èëè Ñóäüáà?

Ñëîæíûé âîïðîñ....ß äóìàþ: íè òî, íè äðóãîå â ÷èñòîì âèäå. Ìîæåò ýòî Íàêàçàíèå Áîæèå (íó íå îáÿçàòåëüíî, êîíå÷íî, Áîæèå, íó ñêàæåì, Âûñøåé Ñèëû/Ðîêà) çà òó ïîçèöèþ êîòîðóþ îí ïûòàëñÿ çàíÿòü, àïîëèòè÷íóþ ïîçèöèþ, ïîçèöèþ ëè÷íîãî íåó÷àñòèÿ....
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A la guerre comme a la guerre èëè âòîðàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ Çàáóãîðíîâà
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: 14.09.2006
: 183

: , 21 2006, 23:07:03     :

Zabougornov ():
Ìóðçèëêà ():
Òàê âîò âîïðîñ : ïî÷åìó æå îí ïîãèáàåò èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî â òðåòüåé âåðñèè ôèëüìà? Ñëó÷àé? èëè Ñóäüáà?

Ñëîæíûé âîïðîñ....ß äóìàþ: íè òî, íè äðóãîå â ÷èñòîì âèäå. Ìîæåò ýòî Íàêàçàíèå Áîæèå (íó íå îáÿçàòåëüíî, êîíå÷íî, Áîæèå, íó ñêàæåì, Âûñøåé Ñèëû/Ðîêà) çà òó ïîçèöèþ êîòîðóþ îí ïûòàëñÿ çàíÿòü, àïîëèòè÷íóþ ïîçèöèþ, ïîçèöèþ ëè÷íîãî íåó÷àñòèÿ....

Íó, âîò âñ¸ òû, âîæäü, ñâîäèøü ê ïîëèòèêå!!! Wink Very Happy À ìîæåò, îíà, åíòàÿ ïîëèòèêà, è åñòü ãëàâíîå çëî, êîòîðîå ìåøàåò èíäèâèäóóìó îïðåäåëèòü åãî ëè÷íûé, ñóáúåêòèâíî ÷åëîâå÷åñêèé ñòàòóñ â æèçíè... ×åëîâåê ïðåæäå âñåãî äîëæåí áûòü íà ñâî¸ì ìåñòå : çàíèìàòüñÿ ëþáèìûì äåëîì, ê êîòîðîìó èìååò ïîäëèííûå ñïîñîáíîñòè, áûòü õîðîøèì, íà䏿íûì äðóãîì, èñêðåííî ëþáèòü æåíùèíó/ìóæ÷èíó, ñâîèõ äåòåé, ïðîòèâîñòîÿòü çëó, íåâàæíî êàêîé ïîëèòè÷åñêîé ðàñêðàñêè... íó ÷òî òàì åù¸-òî èç îáùå÷åëîâå÷åñêîãî?!! Very Happy

Íå çíàþ-íå çíàþ, íî â òðåòüåé âåðñèè æèçíè Âèòåêà äëÿ ìåíÿ ÷¸òêî ïðîñìàòðèâàåòñÿ îïðåäåë¸ííûé êðóã ñóäüáû, åñòü òàì êàêàÿ-òî ïðåäîïðåäåë¸ííîñòü, ðîæäåíèå - Êàòàñòðîôà è ñìåðòü - êàòàñòðîôà, îñòàëüíûå æå âàðèàíòû - ýòî ñêîðåå ïîïûòêà âîëåé ñëó÷àÿ óéòè îò ñâîåé ñóäüáû...
Thais



: 10.03.2005
: 2238
: Kaliningrad-Petersburg-Paris

: , 22 2006, 01:19:04     :

ß òîæå õî÷ó ïîñìîòðåòü ôèëüì ïðî Âèòüêà! Laughing
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Âîò òàê ýòî ïðîèñõîäèò. Âàì õî÷åòñÿ ñ êåì-òî ïîäðóæèòüñÿ. Ðàçãîâàðèâàòü âàì íåîõîòà, âñòðå÷àòüñÿ ëåíü, çâîíèòü íåêîãäà, òóñîâàòüñÿ íàäîåëî, óæèíàòü òÿæåëî, ïðèõîäèòü ñî ñâîåé äèåòîé - íåýòè÷íî, ñïàòü è ëåæàòü ñ âàìè â øèðîêîì ñìûñëå íîâûå äðóçüÿ îòêàçûâàþòñÿ, ìîë÷àòü ñ âàìè èì íå î ÷åì.  îáùåì, äðóæèòü íàäî áûëî ðàíüøå. (Ì. Æâàíåöêèé)
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: 14.09.2006
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: , 22 2006, 14:36:24     :

Thais ():
ß òîæå õî÷ó ïîñìîòðåòü ôèëüì ïðî Âèòüêà! Laughing

Íó... òîãäà, ìîæåò áûòü, íóæíî î÷åíü õîðîøî ïîïðîñèòü Çàáóãîðíîâà, è îí âåëèêîäóøíî îðãàíèçóåò ìàëåíüêóþ-ìàëåíüêóþ êîïèþ ôèëüìà? Wink Very Happy
Thais



: 10.03.2005
: 2238
: Kaliningrad-Petersburg-Paris

: , 22 2006, 18:49:47     :

(Ñ íàäåæäîé â ãîëîñå): Äà íåóäîáíî Âîæäÿ íàïðÿãàòü... Rolling Eyes
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Âîò òàê ýòî ïðîèñõîäèò. Âàì õî÷åòñÿ ñ êåì-òî ïîäðóæèòüñÿ. Ðàçãîâàðèâàòü âàì íåîõîòà, âñòðå÷àòüñÿ ëåíü, çâîíèòü íåêîãäà, òóñîâàòüñÿ íàäîåëî, óæèíàòü òÿæåëî, ïðèõîäèòü ñî ñâîåé äèåòîé - íåýòè÷íî, ñïàòü è ëåæàòü ñ âàìè â øèðîêîì ñìûñëå íîâûå äðóçüÿ îòêàçûâàþòñÿ, ìîë÷àòü ñ âàìè èì íå î ÷åì.  îáùåì, äðóæèòü íàäî áûëî ðàíüøå. (Ì. Æâàíåöêèé)
Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 22 2006, 21:06:56     :

Çàáóãîðíîâ äîáðûé, Çàáóãîðíîâ ñäåëàåò, Çàáóãîðíîâ ïëîõîìó íå íàó÷èò...
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Thais



: 10.03.2005
: 2238
: Kaliningrad-Petersburg-Paris

: , 23 2006, 21:28:41     :

ß çíàë! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Âîò òàê ýòî ïðîèñõîäèò. Âàì õî÷åòñÿ ñ êåì-òî ïîäðóæèòüñÿ. Ðàçãîâàðèâàòü âàì íåîõîòà, âñòðå÷àòüñÿ ëåíü, çâîíèòü íåêîãäà, òóñîâàòüñÿ íàäîåëî, óæèíàòü òÿæåëî, ïðèõîäèòü ñî ñâîåé äèåòîé - íåýòè÷íî, ñïàòü è ëåæàòü ñ âàìè â øèðîêîì ñìûñëå íîâûå äðóçüÿ îòêàçûâàþòñÿ, ìîë÷àòü ñ âàìè èì íå î ÷åì.  îáùåì, äðóæèòü íàäî áûëî ðàíüøå. (Ì. Æâàíåöêèé)
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