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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 24 2006, 16:39:44     : Èíîñòðàííûé ëåãèîí

Ïîñìîòðåë òóò íà äíÿõ ïåðåäà÷ó ïî Arte TV îá èíîñòðàííîì Ëåãèîíå. Åñòü íåñêîëüêî íåïîíÿòíûõ âåùåé.

Êàê ìîãóò èíîñòðàíöû ñëóæèòü â ðåãóëÿðíîé ôðàíöóçñêîé Àðìèè? Ïî-ìîåìó òàêîãî íåò íè â îäíîé ñòðàíå ìèðà....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Foreign_Legion

"While most of its commissioned officers are French, approximately 10% are former Legionnaires who have risen through the ranks. The rest of the Legion is made up of men from a wide variety of nationalities, with French citizens representing 25-35% of the Legionnaires. The foreign volunteers are primarily European. Before and during World War II, many Jews from Eastern Europe fled to France and ended up enlisting in the Legion. Ironically, after the fall of the Third Reich, Germans (long a major presence in the legion) accounted for roughly sixty percent of the manpower, with many former German troops coming directly from WWII POW camps (Bernard B. Fall, a leading expert on French Indochina and author of Street without Joy and Hell in a Very Small Place, disputes this figure and claims that at most Germans only made up thirty-five percent of the Legion in the post-WWII period). The book Devil's Guard relates a former Waffen-SS member's brutal account of joining the Legion and fighting with fellow former SS against the Vietminh in Indochina. During the mid-1980s the Legion contained large contingents of British and Serbian nationals. Present day has seen a number of recruits from African and Balkan countries.

The Legion's ranks historically were filled with enlistees from countries which were undergoing some sort of crisis. While no serious studies were made of the motives for enlistment it seems likely that many recruits were simply transient foreigners who found themselves in France and out of work. In recent generations, however, many of those joining have come from middle-class backgrounds in stable prosperous countries such as Britain and the US (and indeed France itself).

Legionnaires can choose to enlist under a pseudonym ("declared identity") and a declared citizenship. This disposition exists in order to allow people who want to turn over a new leaf in their life to enlist. French citizens can enlist under a declared, fictitious, foreign citizenship (generally, a francophone one). After one year's service, Legionnaires can regularize their situation under their true identity.

In the past, the Legion had a reputation for attracting criminals on the run and would-be mercenaries. In recent years, however, admission has been restricted much more severely, and background checks are done on all applicants. Generally speaking, convicted felons are prohibited from joining the service.

After serving in the Legion for three years (out of a five-year initial enlistment), the legionnaire is allowed to apply for French citizenship."
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Donna Rosa
Çíàòîê äèêèõ îáåçüÿí


: 22.01.2006
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: Èç Áðàçèëèè, åñåñåííî...

: , 24 2006, 17:10:42     :

À ÷òî òóò ñòðàííîãî? Î÷åíü òðåçâàÿ ïîçèöèÿ: ñòðàíà ñîçíàòåëüíî çàêðûâàåò ãëàçà íà òâîå ïðîøëîå è íå çàäàåò íèêàêèõ âîïðîñîâ, à òû çà ýòî ïðàâî çàðàáîòàòü "íîâîå èìÿ" íà ïÿòü ëåò äîáðîâîëüíî îòäàåøü ñåáÿ â ìÿñîðóáêó, ãäå ïîíàäîáèøüñÿ, òóäà è êèíóò... Âñå ÷åñòíî.
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Êàê ñþäà ïîïàëà ýòîò ñýð? (ñ) Áðàññåò
Zabougornov
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: , 24 2006, 17:26:13     :

Äà íå â ýòîì äåëî. Ïðîñòî êîãäà èíîñòðàíöû çà äåíüãè è ïî êîíòðàêòó íà îïðåäåë¸ííîé âðåìÿ ñëóæàò â èíîñòðàííîé àðìèè.....êàê-òî âñ¸ ýòî íàïîìèíàåò íà¸ìíèêîâ.....
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Asteria



: 01.08.2006
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: , 24 2006, 17:27:14     :

Íà¸ìíèêè, âðîäå, áåç êîíòðàêòà... Rolling Eyes Èëè, ìîæåò, òîëüêî íà ñëîâàõ.
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: 13.10.2006
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: , 24 2006, 18:35:13     :

ýòî è åñòü íàåìíàÿ àðìèÿ
ãðàìîòíûé õîä - íèêòî íå îáâèíèò â ïðåâðàùåíèè ñîáñòâåííîãî íàðîäà â ïóøå÷íîå ìÿñî
ê òîìó æå äåíüãè - ëó÷øàÿ ìîòèâàöèÿ
íå òî ÷òî ïàòðèîòèçì)
Zabougornov
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: , 24 2006, 18:38:25     :

Êàê-òî íåõîðîøî âñ¸ ýòî ïàõíåò....
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: , 24 2006, 18:38:32     : Re: Èíîñòðàííûé ëåãèîí

Zabougornov ():
Ïîñìîòðåë òóò íà äíÿõ ïåðåäà÷ó ïî Arte TV îá èíîñòðàííîì Ëåãèîíå.


 ýòîé ïåðåäà÷å, êñòàòè, îôèöåð òàê ñìåøíî äàâàë óêàçàíèÿ ïåðåä ïîñàäêîé â ñàìîë¸ò, ãäå áûëè òðè ñòþàðäåññû! Razz
Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
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: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 24 2006, 18:39:44     :

Ïîìíþ-ïîìíþ....íî ýòî ÷òîáû åìó íå ìåøàëè...
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: 13.10.2006
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: , 24 2006, 18:54:19     :

è çðÿ âû áåñïîêîèòåñü
ýòî íîðìàëüíàÿ ïðàêòèêà
ïðîôåññèîíàëüíàÿ àðìèÿ
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ïëîõî ïàõíåò ñëóæáà ïî ïðèçûâó Rolling Eyes
Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 24 2006, 18:58:07     :

Íîðìàëüíàÿ ïðàêòèêà - ýòî êîãäà ãðàæäàíèí ñâîåé ñòðàíû ñëóæèò â ñâîåé Àðìèè è ïîëó÷àåò çà ýòî äåíüãè.
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Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 24 2006, 19:02:39     :

Ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû, îíè íå ñîâñåì íà¸ìíèêè, âñ¸-òàêè ñëóæàò â ðåãóëÿðíîé Àðìèè...
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: , 24 2006, 19:03:30     :

...è ïðåâðàùàåòñÿ â ïóøå÷íîå ìÿñî â ñëó÷àåå êàêîé-íèáóäü ëîêàëüíîé çàâàðóøêè?
Zabougornov
Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

: , 24 2006, 19:04:27     :

Äà, à ÷òî äåëàòü?
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: 13.10.2006
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: , 24 2006, 19:07:21     :

ëèáî íå âîåâàòü ëèáî îñòàâèòü ýòî ïðîôåññèîíàëàì
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 ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñî ñòàòüåé 47 Äîïîëíèòåëüíîãî ïðîòîêîëà I ê Æåíåâñêèì êîíâåíöèÿì 1949 ã., íàåìíèê - ýòî ëèöî, êîòîðîå ñïåöèàëüíî çàâåðáîâàíî íà ìåñòå èëè çà ãðàíèöåé äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ñðàæàòüñÿ â âîîðóæåííîì êîíôëèêòå, è ôàêòè÷åñêè ïðèíèìàåò íåïîñðåäñòâåííîå ó÷àñòèå â âîåííûõ äåéñòâèÿõ, ðóêîâîäñòâóÿñü, ãëàâíûì îáðàçîì, æåëàíèåì ïîëó÷èòü ëè÷íóþ âûãîäó, è êîòîðîìó â äåéñòâèòåëüíîñòè îáåùàíî ñòîðîíîé èëè ïî ïîðó÷åíèþ ñòîðîíû, íàõîäÿùåéñÿ â êîíôëèêòå, ìàòåðèàëüíîå âîçíàãðàæäåíèå, ñóùåñòâåííî ïðåâûøàþùåå âîçíàãðàæäåíèå, îáåùàííîå èëè âûïëà÷èâàåìîå êîìáàòàíòàì òàêîãî æå ðàíãà è ñ òàêèìè æå ôóíêöèÿìè èç ÷èñëà ëè÷íîãî ñîñòàâà âîîðóæåííûõ ñèë äàííîé ñòîðîíû.

äðóãèìè ñëîâàìè â ýòîì íè÷åãî ïëîõîïàõíóùåãî íåò
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: , 24 2006, 19:15:10     :

À âû ÷èòàëè íà ÈÔ íåäàâíèå òÿãîòû îäíîãî èç ðóññêèõ ëåãèîíåðîâ?

Âîò ñþäà ìîæíî òêíóòü. È âîò çäåñü åù¸ îí ïèøåò.
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